Make Money with Vibe Marketing in 40 mins (n8n, MCP, Claude 3.7)

0:00You might have heard of Vibe Marketing. Today I'm going to teach you exactly how to do it super simply using tools MCP, N8N, and Cloud. It's going to help you replace your entire marketing team with AI. And I know that sounds crazy, but I'm going to show you actually how to do it in a very, very simple way. You're going to enjoy this episode. People who listen to this episode, I don't care if you're a designer or a developer or a copywriter or a marketer, you will learn some skills that'll help you make a lot of money coming up, help you automate a lot of your job, help you

0:37get customers. And we show you the exact plan for how you can create a business from the arbitrage and the insights of using a lot of these AI tools. I couldn't be more excited for you to listen to this episode until the end, because I do believe that a lot of lives will be change if you know

0:58how to use these tools. Enjoy the episode. This might be our most requested Startup Ideas podcast. I did the video, and we talked a lot about some of your ideas on Vibe Marketing, Introduction to Vibe Marketing. I brought on Mr. Vibe Marketing himself, boring marketer. And what are we going to learn today? Well, I've been spending a lot of time building workflows and sharing what I know about it with my social audience, community, and all that. And I think a lot of people believe that workflows have to be super, super complicated. Maybe you've seen a screenshot of a workflow and it's got a million different things happening. But I'm going to actually show you that the most

1:52powerful workflow you can build is also the simplest one. So by the end of this episode, what are people going to learn? Are they going to get an introduction to N8N? Are they going to understand how to build their first workflow? why should someone give their time to stick to the end of this? I think if you stick to the end, you're going to get a glimpse of what the future of marketing actually looks . And it's going to be very actionable. And I'm going to lead you

2:17through exactly how I would vibe market a product. Cool. And my ask for you is I've played with N8N. It's a bit overwhelming for me. And I'd to see a sample workflow so that I can basically just copy it and just implement it in my business. So that's my ask for you. Let's get right into it. Sure. All right. So I said, there's a lot going on about these workflows and what tools to use and things of that nature. So in the community that we have, there's a lot of people that are , hey, how do I build my first workflow or where do I even start? So the two most common platforms that

2:55are out there that I typically recommend folks check out is either Gumloop or InnateIn. I to use InnateIn because I'm a little more on the advanced side and there's a little bit more flexibility what I'm about to show you here today. but you should use it because you can automate a lot of the boring manual tasks that are in your business. I use it for marketing specifically where there's a ton of manual stuff that you have to do. And once you automate it, you're kind of freed up to focus on more strategic or creative things. And that's sort of the essence of what Vibe Marketing is all about. So what I thought I would do is kind of show you a few things that I

3:33created this morning that if you were to try to do it manually, it would take you at least two to three weeks of work to get it done. And I did it in about 30 minutes prior to hopping on this podcast. Sounds too good to be true, but I'll let you, you know, you're one of my smartest friends, so I'd love to see it. Okay, cool. So one of the other common questions I get around, vibe marketing and building workflows is what workflow should I build? I think people have this

4:06cold start problem. So we're also going to try to answer that as I walk you through this stuff. So the way that I to think about building my first vibe marketing workflow is I to understand where's the demand out there on the internet for my product or my service. Now, the easiest way to find that is to do keyword research. This allows you to understand what people are searching for on Google, how often they're searching it, and how much potential traffic you can get to your website if you rank and show up on the results for that keyword. Now, you know, SEO and all that's changing. A lot of people are talking about how do I rank in LLMs or how

4:47do I show up in chat GPT if someone searches for a keyword related to my product as well. And this is going to help to address that too. So I'm really going to walk you through how I would approach an organic growth system that's going to help you rank and get discovered, help you create content that's relevant for what your customers are looking for, and then how you can look at it as sort of a continuous improvement process so that you can go out and beat the competition. So when

5:14it comes to keyword research, you know, there's a couple common tools that people use to do it. There's Ahrefs, there's SEMrush, there's a bunch of other ones. Now, if you've ever tried to log into one of these tools, it's very overwhelming. Have you ever tried to log into Ahrefs, Greg? Much to my chagrin. Okay. So you log in, there's a lot of different buttons, a lot of different things to click around on and stuff that. So I'm going to show you sort of an end result and then I'm going to walk backwards. So what you're looking at right here is a fully completed keyword research study

5:51that I did this morning. So, sorry, I just opened that I did this morning. So what we're looking at here is 42 different keywords that Beehive, a newsletter growth platform, could go and rank for. It's telling me that there's 14,580 monthly traffic available for these keywords. It's telling me that there's about medium competition for these keywords. So I have opportunity to go and outrank the competitors. And there's 20 high potential keywords specifically here. So what you see is there's various types of keywords. There's informational keywords. These are , how do I start my first newsletter? There's commercial keywords , what is the best newsletter platform for my business? And there's a couple other types as well. It's even showing me some

6:44of the competitors that are currently ranking for those keywords out in the market. Okay, so the next thing is that it's giving me some key insights and recommendations already. So it's telling me what type of content I need to go and create in order to rank for these keywords. So it's telling me to create comprehensive guides around newsletter creation, monetization, and even growth strategies. It's telling me how I can get a competitive edge versus the competition. So I need to analyze the gaps on how I'm different than sub stack, for example. And then it's giving me what the traffic opportunity actually is. So this is just the overview. And then if we go into the long

7:24tail recommendations, you can see that we have a bunch of high quality, very targeted keywords that we can go after and try to rank for. Okay, so we've got examples newsletter platform for creators, email marketing software for writers, best newsletter monetization tools. These are all things that folks are actively looking for online. So if I click into these keywords, it's giving me the exact steps that I need to do to go and show up for this so that I can get the right type of traffic to my website. So it's telling me create in-depth guides, develop case studies,

8:03create comparison content with competitors, and then build landing pages optimized for this term. All right. So I've got some information on where the demand is out there. And that's usually the place that I to start. Now, if you were to build this out as a workflow in N8N, it would be very complex. You know, it would be , hey, go and, you know, access some sort of keyword database, categorize the keywords, go and look at competitors. And there would probably be , you know, 15 to 20 different, you know, nodes, which are, you know, different actions within a workflow in order to get this done. But I'm going to show you how simple this can this can really be to get

8:48this type of output. I want to say one quick thing. Yeah. So we just quickly went over the exact plan around how to just siphon out 5, 10, potentially up to 15,000 monthly traffic to a landing page. It's , build this guide. Here's what it should be, which is insane to think about. It's basically giving you the plan around how to actually build the thing. And then when you look at something beehive.com, so these are SaaS tools that will give you 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 percent of revenue. You know, so I've done a guide. I'll link it in the show notes around how to start an online directory, which sounds , by the way, the most boring business to start of

9:37all time. an online directory and teaching people and basically creating a list of top, let's say, email providers. But having affiliate links is probably, and creating directories and creating guides around this sort of thing is probably the easiest way to get started in this whole make money online space Yeah exactly I mean the easiest way to get started is to figure out how you can identify existing demand and analyze the competitors to see what they're not covering. And then that's your entry point right there. Cool. All right. Okay. So this looks pretty complicated, right? it's got all kinds of recommendations. It's got a bunch of keywords, all kinds of really

10:21good stuff. And I said, you might think that this requires an incredibly complex workflow, but I'm going to show you how I arrived at this. So I'm going to open up a Claude desktop. So you might think that there's a super complicated workflow to find these opportunities and keywords out there. But I actually created that entire dashboard showing me my relevant keywords. If I'm Beehive with one prompt within Claude. So I said, find me 20 long tail keywords, non-branded. That means I don't want it to be people searching for Beehive for the domain Beehive.com. Now, if you were just using Claude out of the box, it couldn't do that. Now, you might see that I have

11:08this little thing here called keyword tool. Do you see that, Greg? Yeah, I don't know what I'm looking at, but I've never seen that. Okay, cool. Yeah. You've probably never seen that in Claude because it's not something that you can just access within Claude. What this is, is this is an MCP integration. Okay. So I'm able to access a tool that I created in N8N called Keyword Tool that's going through Ahrefs, all the data in Ahrefs, and just pulling out the information that I need, which are these 20 high potential long tail keywords. So if you find Ahrefs confusing, if you find keyword research confusing, we're letting Claude do all the hard work of finding

11:53what keywords you need to focus on. I love it. Okay. So that alone, if you want to do manual keyword research and you're not a super search or SEO or digital marketing professional, that could take you 20, 30, 40 hours to go into a tool, to analyze the keywords, to look at the competitors. And when I prompted Claude here, it returned these keywords to me within 30 seconds. Yeah. Also, you could be spending 20, 30, 40 hours and still not have the right keywords. Yeah, exactly. These are highly relevant. They're exactly the type of keywords that I want to go after. And this alone is incredibly valuable. All right. I knew you'd give this off. Okay, let's continue. All right. So

12:44we've got our keywords here with a prompt. and you can see they're targeting the core functionality of Beehive as a newsletter platform while focusing on specific user needs and use cases. So we're targeting keywords that have intent behind them. These are the ones that, you know, once somebody clicks on a result and say chat GPT or on Google search, these folks are actually going to do

13:07something on your website. You know, not all search traffic or whatever is created equal. These are the type of visitors that are actually going to convert to your product or service, which is super, super important. Yeah, it's super important because there's a lot of people who are , yeah, I get a million visits a month to my directory or whatever, but it's low quality stuff, right? I'd rather have 10,000 high quality and just focus on those people. If they're going to convert at five to 10x, what with the others? Exactly. So what I to do after I get the information here is I to create an interactive asset within Claude. So Claude has, you know,

13:46this artifact feature where it can basically code up a dashboard or a website for you. So after I got these initial keywords from my keyword tool, I asked Claude to create an interactive dashboard highlighting all these keyword opportunities. And that is what I'm showing you here. Wow. So you just prompted it that we'll share the prompts. We'll share some of this in a guide for people so that they can download this. It'll be in the show notes. But you just basically one prompted this. Yep, yep. Find the keywords, now create a dashboard. And, you know, Claude's really

14:25smart, so it didn't just list out all of those keywords that we looked at after the first prompt. It actually went into Ahrefs, and it pulled the potential traffic that you can get, you know, from these keywords. It pulled the difficulty. It pulled the search volume for each one of these various keywords. it pulled some information about the competitors so this is all real data from hrefs crazy and just for we have a lot of people listen on spotify and apple the startup ideas podcast can you just name you know for the people who are not watching just name some of these keywords yeah absolutely so some of the keywords assuming i'm beehive a better question And if you

15:14were to pick one or two keywords on this list, what would you pick and why? Yeah, we'll get into that next. I would say how to grow newsletter subscribers. It's got some decent volume, so 2,300 searches monthly. It's relevant at 89%, and then the difficulty isn't too bad. So I feel reasonably confident that I could go and rank for that keyword with the right strategy. Cool. Okay. So we're going to go back to Claude and I'm going to talk about what step two is. So here, you know, here we have the keywords, okay? And now it's , this is great. We have keywords, but what do

15:58I do with them? So the thing that you want to do with keywords is we want to start creating content around that search term so that we can attract the right people to our site. All right. So I'm going to go back to Claude and I'm just going to kind of walk you through my workflow here. So we created that interactive artifact with the keyword data and insights. All right. We have some features where we can integrate some social search so we can go and find , hey, based off this topic, what are some social posts that are also in and around this too? So, you know, if you want to repurpose

16:35some content and create some social content, you can do that, too. OK, after I found the keywords, the next thing that I did is I had Claude basically group those keywords into a few key topics. So this one here is called newsletter growth and audience building. I thought that would be pretty relevant to to your listeners. They're thinking about growing newsletters, growing their audience. So we can dig into that one a little bit more specifically. So what that is, is it's just five keywords in one kind of topic that went and that we researched that we can kind of talk about in one group. Cool. All right. So newsletter growth and audience building. All right. So

17:19now that we have newsletter growth and audience building, I'm sending another prompt to Claude. And this prompt is analyze the search results from page one and page two of Google for this cluster. So what this is doing here is it's actually going out and it's scraping the Google results to see what type of content is already out there for this topic. Makes sense. Okay. So basically what that's going to allow us to do is get a deeper understanding on what are our competitors that are ranking for this keyword not addressing? So what are the gaps that are out there? So, you know, what are the topics? What are the themes? What are the ways that I can add more value than the

18:06competitors for people searching for this keyword? All right. So some of the things that popped up right now, the current content, it's talking about basic audience acquisition tactics, you know, general list building frameworks. It's not really going into things data driven growth benchmarks. So Claude is telling me there's an opportunity to create deeper, more

18:30comprehensive research than what the competitors are publishing that shows, you know, data points. give me advanced segmentation strategies so we can develop content on , how do I, you know, segment different subscribers based on their metrics? How do I trigger, you know, automations within my email platform or something that? It's saying that there's a gap in technical guidance, how to, you know, coordinate this content across channels to develop a comprehensive newsletter and audience growth plan. And then it says that another gap is people aren't really talking enough about retention, which I find pretty interesting too. As someone who actually writes an email at gregeisenberg.com, I can attest that this is the content that I would click into and be

19:23really interested in reading. Yep. Yep. So this isn't just an LLM making stuff up, right? It's actually true. This is this makes sense. Yeah, this is this is not just an LLM making it up, because what we're doing with this MCP integration to the workflows and in it in is we're pumping all of the right context into Claude here. You know, so basing all of this around real data that's out there. So there no hallucination It not just making things up around you know what they might think people are interested in It actually understanding the demand so it finding the keywords And then we selected a group of keywords, and we're , hey, go out there and read all of the

20:14ranking articles, posts, and websites on the front two pages of Google and tell me exactly what's missing. So this gives you such a targeted spear if you're a newsletter platform to know exactly how you can go and attack the market. Okay, you're firing me up now. Don't fire me up too much. It's going to get better. It's going to get better. So we've got these gaps. And the next thing that I want to do after I identify all these gaps is I want to know what content that I can create. So I'm going to click back over to our artifacts because I created another really cool one. And

20:49this is a 30-day newsletter growth and audience building content dashboard. So this is that group of keywords that I mentioned, okay, newsletter growth and audience building. So it's got about five keywords in it. And basically I asked Claude to, you know, take a look at what's currently ranking and all that. Now tell me exactly what kind of content I need to go and create to dominate these search terms. So, you know, there's no guesswork here. It's , this is what you need to go and do. Here's day one. On Monday, you need to go and create a blog post around the newsletter growth roadmap, tailored strategies for every stage, zero to 100,000 subscribers. It tells

21:34me the keywords that, you know, this content piece is focused on. And then I had it include a content brief so that I can create the perfect blog post for this topic. So it's telling me exactly what this brief is going to address. It's saying most content in this niche focuses on generic growth tactics rather than stage specific strategies. It's even got the primary audience, so newsletter creators at all stages, beginner to advanced. and it's giving us kind of a comprehensive structure in order to write this guide. But as vibe marketers, we're not going to go write all this,

22:16right? No, vibe marketers are the most boring people, most lazy, boring people. Yeah, exactly. And that's why we love them. That's why we love them. That's it. So we're not going to go write a blog post manually because if we wanted to do that, that could take another 20 to 30 hours, you know, to make it perfect, to go back and forth, to integrate our brand voice, to do all that boring stuff manually. Sounds a waste of time to me. So how do we, how do we automate it? How do we do it fast? I'm going to click this button, copy brief. Okay. I'm going to open Claude. So after we

22:52identified this brief, you know, we're of course not going to manually write this. So I created another prompt in Claude. So I have a brand voice that I saved. You know, most folks using LLMs probably have something to this effect where, you know, when they're prompting ChatGPT or whatever, they're kind of giving it your preferences on how you want the content to come out. So I have a little prompt here, use this brand voice, and I copy and pasted the content brief that I showed you from the tool. So this is exactly what we just went through, okay? And now Claude is writing a complete search-optimized blog post for me based on that brief with my voice

23:37foundation that I gave it. So it's going through, , every step. And I even have it pulled up here as an artifact that we can kind of scroll through and look at. I mean, and when you say an artifact, you're saying, , this looks a website to me. Yeah. So Cloud generates artifacts. It can generate dashboards. It can generate websites. So this actually is a website that I created. So when I said create an artifact, it just went in and it started coding this up. And I thought that, hey, I might as well make it a little website to pull up and show you versus scrolling through the

24:16Cloud dashboard there. Cool. So, , I read this. I think it reads great. It even has different areas that I can, you know, utilize for hero images and stuff that. And we'll link this here, but I want people to read through the level of detail. This is not AI slop. You know, when people are going to ChatGPT or Claude or whatever, and they're , hey, write me a blog post for this topic. A lot of times, you know, you do that and then you're sort of underwhelmed. , I'm sure you've been there as well. Yeah, I mean, you almost feel bait and switch. You're , I just gave 30 seconds of my time

24:59to this, and I'm never getting that back. Yep. Yep. So what I about this is, again, we're pumping all of that context, that real information and real data into cloud. So it's looked at, you know, all the content that's out there. It understands the keyword and the audience that we're trying to reach. And it's using that information to create a highly valuable piece of content here. Cool. So, you know, let's say that you have your blog created and then you want to create some images, too. You know, that's often something that takes some time and it's manual or whatever. So another neat thing that I did with this workflow is that I integrated ChatGPT's new image gen into it. So

25:46you can just prompt Claude right there. Hey, based off of this article that we're trying to create, make me an image that I can use for my hero image. So that's done right there in the same place as well. And it looks good. It looks really good. Yeah, not bad at all. , you know, the challenge here for a lot of marketers using these tools is that they're switching between, , you know, 10 different things. , their tabs open on their browser. , you know, they've got ChatGPT. They've got Claude. They've got maybe some, , blogging platform and a bunch of other, you know, SaaS products. And what we're doing here is, , we're building our own tools that we can use in one

26:29simple place. And I spend a lot of time in Claude. So being able to access these tools within where I'm already working saves me a ton of time on, you know, context switching back and forth between a bunch of different stuff. I've done a tutorial on what an MCP is. I'll link it also. And, you know, but just quickly explain within the context of Vibe Marketing what an MCP is. Yeah, I was thinking I figured this would come up. And the easiest way that I can explain it is imagine it's a two way radio between your LLM and a third party piece of software. So what that means is

27:12that within the chat interface of the LLM, I can access data from this third-party tool, and then I can send back data or I can send back commands to it as well. So it's enabling that communication between my LLM and another piece of software. So what's the difference between an API and an MCP, if that's the case? You know, to be honest, that's above my pay grade as a Vibe marketer. So, , you know, I'm using an API here to access, , Ahrefs within my keyword tool. And then I'm using an MCP to make sure that that information is going back and forth smoothly between Claude and

27:52between N8N. Yeah, I mean, the other thing, the reality is for 99% of people listening to this, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And, you know, again, I tell people this all the time, but when I'm working in these tools, I'm not a I'm not an engineer. I'm not the world's foremost automation expert, you know, to be honest, either. So I've got Manus or Claude or, you know, GPT-03 or whatever open as my co-pilot guiding me through all this stuff for how to set it up. If I need some code, I'm asking. So, you know, there's a lot that you don't know and you can't know at all. So

28:30you have to really lean into the AI tools as well, you know, as you're kind of building things out, tinkering and experimenting. Totally. Do I see video, Jen, here? Is that what I'm looking at? You see video, Jen. I was testing that as well. So, you know, one of the things about the modern state of organic growth online is that, you know, a few years ago, everyone was all about Google search, you know. So everyone was just writing blog posts and things that. But if you look at search results today or you look at, you know, results within ChatGPT or an LLM, you see a lot of things from

29:06Reddit or LinkedIn or X or, you know, YouTube, all these other channels where the content is multi-format and multi-channel. Yeah. I mean, when you Google MCP, I'm pretty sure the first result is a tutorial that I did. Right. With Professor Ross Mick on MCPs, which is insane. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot more social signals coming into play. So videos from YouTube, again, threads from Reddit, things that. So that's why I have image generation and

29:39video generation here, because when you create a blog post that's just not enough these days. If you want to go and attack those gaps that we discovered, one of the major gaps that I always find is that your competitors are very one track minded. They may have just created a blog post about newsletter growth. They probably don have a short form video They probably don have a post on X a post on LinkedIn a thread on Reddit all about that newsletter growth and audience building topic that we already verified there's demand for. So, you know, Google search is a great proxy for all these other channels around what people are looking to engage with. And I believe that,

30:20you know, in today's world, you have to be everywhere in all the formats in order to kind of dominate the competition, especially if you're a startup. That's kind of the way that you can enter into an established market and start siphoning off that traffic from the main players. Absolutely. So that said, we've got our blog post. And then I went back to Claude and I started to create some X threads and some other types of things too. So just for example, I said, hey, based on this blog post, create a thread on X. And here it's got how I build a 1K subscriber newsletter in 60 days with no ad spend. That's a pretty good hook, right? Dude, someone , yeah,

31:12I can't believe that. That's a really good hook. Yeah, exactly. Most times you try to create an X post or a LinkedIn post or whatever, it comes out a blog post and it's just not done properly. So I was , honestly, I was blown away by the initial quality of this just with one prompt right out of the gate. So you can see it here. it's in this plan as well. It's got key insights thread from each growth stage. So this is the brief. I did the same thing that I did for the blog post. I copied the brief. I took it into Claude. I said, hey, here's that voice foundation that we use for

31:50the blog posts and boom, it one-shotted that thread for me. And if you wanted to move from, you know, I'm trying not to say Claude on this, on this episode, but there I'll say it, Claude. If you, you know, if you're, if you want to move from, from Claude to Webflow or another tool, how, you know, is that, are you thinking about that as a vibe marketer? yeah how do you want to publish this type of content on your website and things of that nature yeah you know because it's cool that it's on this artifact and it's cool I can share that with my team and get feedback and stuff

32:29that but eventually I'm going to want that on my domain gregeismer.com slash you know article slash newsletter right I'm thinking about it I haven't gotten there yet within Claude, I'm assuming I might be able to create a tool that's similar to the other ones here. And I said, this MCP server trigger is kind of a two-way radio, you know, so I can pull data in, I can send commands and things out. So as long as I can access the Webflow API, which I certainly can, I can send that blog, you know, into my content management system or whatever. Now, I always recommend a little bit of editing and tweaking. So once it's in Webflow, you might need to do a little formatting,

33:21make sure it fits your design and stuff that. But end to end is coming. Eventually, this is going to be fully automated where you enter your URL, it's finding the keywords, it's creating cross-platform content, and that's just publishing it for you. So that's definitely in the future. I hear what you're saying. You're saying basically , okay, you're going to use AI to create this content. You're going to want to review the content and edit the content potentially. You don't want to just automatically put it up on a web flow because it might not be worth the risk of damaging your brand or something that. Yeah. In our community, we actually did a survey. Hey, what are some of

34:08the biggest challenges that marketers are having with AI. And one of the biggest challenges that they're having is brand safety and keeping things aligned toward their brand. So most marketers have a human in the loop step. And, you know, when we build these types of automations out for clients, they're very conscious of that. So, you know, we to integrate with Slack, for example. So let's say that you have Claude set up and you have a system this, once you get your draft in Claude, you say, hey, send it to Slack, right? And then you have a shared channel with, I don't know, maybe you have a marketing manager or a social media manager or something that. They can check it out and review

34:54it right there and maybe give feedback for how you can improve the prompts or something along those lines. Cool. Yep. So, yeah, that's kind of a completed, , end-to-end system. And just to show you again, , how simple this is, I want to show you, , what most people think that a workflow, you know, looks in an innate in. So I'm just going to pop out of here, and I'm going to show you one that, you know, might look a little more complicated that we're working on. So, you know, you can imagine the first time you're popping up X and you see someone talk about a workflow,

35:34you know, you see something this and it makes for great content and it gets people interested because it's so complicated and they think it must be so, you know, special and useful. And while these things are great, they're not the place to start. these simple ones are often the most powerful. So you can see there's only four nodes here for this entire workflow. and each of these has a has a workflow too but it's literally you know a couple steps so let me show you the keyword tool one what that actually looks when you open it up and this is the beauty of mcp because again

36:13you're not designing all this complicated logic in a workflow builder you're just saying hey pump this data into clod and let clod figure out what to do with it. So all you're doing is connecting with Ahrefs. You know, you have a little bit of code to say, hey, don't pull in all kinds of other stuff on backlinks and things. I just want keyword information. And then that's going into

36:36Claude. And you're letting Claude find , what are the best keywords? Can you group these together? Can you tell me what to do with them? Crazy, dude. Yeah. So for me, this has been a total game changer. And I think that, But I don't know, no one that I've seen is really thinking about the simplicity of these types of workflows and how easy it is to unlock that much value. Well,

37:04dude, thank you for sharing the sauce. I know you could have easily gatekept this, but you're me. You to distribute the sauce. Highly recommend if you're not following The Boring Marketer on X. he's giving away a lot of these workflows. You also give away these workflows in your community that you mentioned, if you want to just pull it up, right? Yes, sure. So yeah, the community has

37:33been going crazy. In school, we've got, I think, close to one and a half thousand members now. And in Slack, we also have another community with about another thousand people. So we have about 2,500 vibe marketers just working on this stuff every single day. they're posting, you know, questions, challenges they might be facing, sharing really, really interesting workflows. I thought this one was great. It's a, it's one of the more complicated keyword research ones, but it's amazing. So people are just giving away tons of value in here. And then, you know, we launched a classroom to kind of help people work through these step by step. And I'm going to

38:18be making a MCP workflow live within our classroom here too for our community to be able to set this type of thing up and experiment with it as well. Cool. And at boardmarketing.com, you also help people with this stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we're basically doing vibe coding and vibe marketing as a service now. So we're We're making these very custom to businesses. We're identifying where people are spending a lot of time manually, and we're helping them automate this stuff, get out of the weeds so they can kind of vibe and take advantage of all this. Cool. I'll include the link in the show notes. Full disclosure, I'm an investor in the business. I believe in the

39:02future of vibe marketing, so happy to put my money where my mouth is. Can I say your name, James? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the cash out of the bag now. I've been doing videos and stuff, so people know I'm just not a diamond-headed boring marketer anymore. Okay, cool. All right, so James, thanks for coming on. I personally would love to double-click into more workflows. I think that this is a bigger topic that needs more time, so if people got any value from this, please, please let me know in the comment section. I only want to create content that you look at and you're , wow, that was saucy. so thank you James for your time and you were generous with your sauce and I gotta

39:51ask if you enjoyed this episode please it and comment and subscribe, share it with your friends and let's all get that sauce together James thanks again, I'll see you next time Thanks for having me