The $50K/Month One-Person AI Agent Business (Full Blueprint)

0:0010 clients at 5 grand a month, one person running the entire thing with a team of AI agents. That's $50,000 a month in recurring revenue at 90% margins, and we're going to hand you the entire blueprint in this episode. I brought on Nick Vasiljesku, who's a co-founder of Orgo.ai, and we built out the entire business model live on screen. Everything from the offer to how you find clients, how you onboard them, and then how you deploy managed agents without touching a single line of code yourself. I even watched Nick deploy a Hermes agent from scratch in 26 seconds on screen in this episode. So, if you

0:37want a business that you can start this week with the skills that you already have, this is the episode for you.

0:48All right, Nick. So, who are you and what is someone going to take away if they listen to the end of this episode? Man, I'm telling you, the best opportunity today is to set up agents for businesses, and you can do it on Orgo. I'm the co-founder of Orgo. We give you the computers and the environments that you need to set up these agents. And what's interesting is you could set up Hermes agent, you could set up Openclaw, but you could also set up Codex and Claude Code and Claude Desktop for your customers on a Windows computer in Orgo, manage fleets of them in workspaces. And we're giving you this

1:21all out of the box, business in a box. You could set this up in a day, have all of your customers have their own workspace in Orgo, and yeah, I just think that this entire stack from the offer to how to get customers, how to onboard them, how to build these agents out. We walk through all of this for

1:38you. And so, at the end of this video, you should be able to have everything you need to get started, to start making money with the skill that you have today, which is setting up agents. Um So, I'm super excited to see what people build. Me too. So, yeah, so to kind of summarize at least my take on it and your your title of the the diagram here sums it up nicely. Like we're going to be handing you guys in the audience the blueprint for building a 5K a month per client that is, 5K per client per month, one person AI agent managed agent business blueprint. Like

2:13you can take the diagram that we have here. We're going to put it in the description. Take the diagram, hand it to Claude, hand it to Hermes, hand it to your agent and have it build you out this entire business plan. Um and that's exactly what we're going to give you all today. So, I'm excited

2:25to dive in. Let's do it. Like the biggest arbitrage here is a few things. A. Everyone in tech Twitter or on AI YouTube, like we think that the rest of the world is like us and that they everyone can set up Claude code, everyone can set up Hermes agent, everyone already knows how to do that. But the reality is 99% of people,

2:51especially businesses, they don't know. They they're still asking ChatGPT what the weather is. Um and the value that they can get, like the magical wow, like time like that that first wow moment is very it hooks a lot of business owners and then their their creativity just goes through the roof of like all the different problems

3:10they can solve with AI. Um so, yeah, like a lot of this comes down to you know, I'll walk through kind of how to think about what problems to solve here, you know, the highest value problems that require the least effort, cost, and time. Um and then and just solving those first and having it infiltrate the business and then everything else that gets solved along the way, it's like it's easily valuable of a you know, the the the range of 5K a month, 4K a month,

3:376K a month. Um and yeah, I think like not enough people are doing this. Um and we're seeing a great amazing pull in the market for this. So, um yeah. Shall we just dive right in? 100%. Yeah, let's get into the model. I'm I'm excited, so let's dive in. Cool. So, essentially, what we want to do in terms of our offer is that we want to once again remove all of the

4:02complexity. These business owners, they don't understand, okay, what is token usage? What is infrastructure? What is security? Like, what is Hermes agent versus OpenClaw? What's a harness? They don't know. They don't care. They want their problems solved. And so, we have to keep that in mind and we have to create as much simplicity and clarity in our offer as possible. So, what I like to do is I like to say, "Look, we'll handle unlimited tokens, unlimited agents, unlimited infrastructure, computers, whatever you need, we'll handle it. You don't have to worry." Like, that's at the end of the day, like, that's what you have to do as

4:38a company. You come in to reduce the friction, get rid of all the the the friction in in in terms of setting something up. You're You're doing a managed service for them. Uh so, keep it that way. Keep it simple. And then go in and and offer, you know, kind of abundance. And with that, a lot of people are like, "Well, how how how do you ever um you know, make money if it's unlimited agents? What if they want 100

4:59agents?" I have customers they they think they want 400 agents. Really, what they think is what really what they want is just, you know, they have like maybe a few different automations in mind and they think it's going to take 400 agents. But, that's where you need to really come in and just be like that domain expert and say, "No, okay, like, it's really like maybe it's one to three agents." Um so, yeah, I I think like there's no need to be kind of like worried about, "Oh, I'm going to get screwed over." Like, a lot of customers are very reasonable. If they genuinely need 20 agents, like, they will be happy

5:32to pay for that and you can clearly like communicate that. Um but, yeah, I I like to just keep it very simple and do the do the 5K a month offer. I I see that work really well. Um I don't know about you, Corey, but the industries that work really well for us are agencies like marketing agencies, brand design agencies, law firms, insurance agencies, even insurance companies like software companies in

5:57insurance is really good. Manufacturing, wholesale, real estate. We try to avoid health care and finance because there's just a lot of red tape in these industries. But if you're already a domain expert in health care and finance, then go for it. Like at the end of the day when it comes to picking a niche, you really just want to pick either A, what you know, or B, wherever the market is pulling you. And I would avoid trying to like guess on like, oh, I'm going to go into I don't know, like like telehealth. I remember when I first started in online business like doing a marketing agency

6:33like several years back. Like I started in telehealth. It's like terrible decision. I didn't know anything about telehealth. I was just like, oh, it sounded like a good idea. So, don't do that. Just try try a bunch of different industries, see where you get pulled into the most, and double down on that. Uh And and real quick on that topic, I think that's really good advice. So, that's something that like people ask me all the time. It's like, oh, should I go niche or should I go broad to start? And my answer is kind of like you said. It's like if you have really specific domain

7:03expertise, like if you're a lawyer by trade, then serve law firms from the start, right? You already have an edge there. But if you don't have any specific like super deep industry expertise, do not go niche from the start. Say yes to just about any client, and then like you said, the market is going to kind of you're kind of going to find your niche from doing that. Like I know when we were doing when we started off doing our AI assessments, we were obviously doing them for anyone that wanted them, and we were like, oh, like hey, we're actually a lot of like realtors are are asking us for these,

7:37right? And that's not to say that we specialize in realtors now, but like we could if we wanted to, you know, and that'd probably be a lot easier for us to do because we've already validated that market. So, that's I think that's really good advice on your end and that's just a reminder for the audience.

7:50Yeah, exactly. And I don't know like I think it's a like kind of a noob mistake in business when you get started out of like putting something off because it doesn't sound scalable. So, it's like Right. Oh, I'm not going to do this because I'm never going to scale and it'll never like be repeatable enough that like when you're starting out you you just need to make money. Like you need that. So, like however you're going to get that, you got to get it. So, like if it's doing an audit or if it's doing something that's a little different like from a customer to customer like

8:23the the whole the whole point of when you get started is not necessarily to be scalable from the beginning, it's to like actually learn, get in the trenches and learn, you know, what works, what doesn't work and Right. So, I think a lot of people live a little too much in theory and so I guess like the big my biggest piece of advice here is like just get out there and start selling and building and you will kind of like this is how I learned all of this is like it's not like I, you know, kind of wrote wrote it down one day and philosophized about it. Um so,

8:55um yeah, I guess as far as next up in terms of getting customers, this is another thing that's, you know, kind of from personal experience the best way that I found to get customers is obviously content. Um just to have customers jump on a call with you. Like every you could have nothing that's uh you know, you could have a terrible funnel you could have like no uh lead qualification but if you just had a booking link and an audience that knew what you do and they knew who you were and what you sell

9:28you could have a thriving B2B offer. Um so, like content is king people want to know who you are, they want to see that they can trust you. And going going into a call, they feel like they already know you. Like that's the biggest, you know, strategic advantage. Um if you don't do content, I love I love Upwork. I I just love I don't know if you've I don't know if you've looked at like Upwork. You could like you just go to Upwork, type in Hermes agents or Open Claw agents. Like people are literally willing to pay thousands of dollars to help you set up Hermes agents. And in in this video, I'm

10:04going to show you how to get set up really quickly on Orgo. Um but yeah, like Upwork is another great place to get started. Um And also, I don't know, did you ever do anything like free in the beginning? [snorts] Because when I started doing like computer use AI agents back in November for businesses, I like the first five of them that I did were actually free. And it was just for

10:27the case case studies. Uh 100%. I mean, when we when I first started in AI, again, around the similar time, we were doing AI assessments. Like that was the first offer that I that I ran, and we're still doing them. But the first, I think, two or three we did were completely free. And that was because one, we wanted to work out the kinks in the process. And And two, like you said, we wanted those case studies. And we wanted that feedback from the client on

10:52what we could do better. Exactly. Yeah. And like they'll always give you a referral when you do that, too. And so then it's just a snowball. So um Yeah, we still I still have like actual Technically, I still have people's like agents that I manage today that they were free. Um but they're you know, you're the free people in the beginning that in a way, they kind of they even though if even if they don't give you money at first, they still believe in you enough to like spend time with you, let you solve their problems, and trust you in that way. And so um And so then it's kind of funny cuz I

11:28know in your So Corey just had a video go viral about audits and what And what you said one of the parts of that video was how in a call with a customer you have like an AI voice recorder like Grainola and you give it to Claude and then Claude just comes up with the whole like solution for the workflow or tool for the to solve their problem and that's exactly what I do as well in terms of onboarding clients. The first call I don't even try to actually sell on the first call. I really just try and get the pain points understood really well and like what is the workflow

12:02specifically? And then either the result of that is they close on that call immediately or they close on the second call. But the whole point here being we want to identify their problems, have an AI voice recorder and then we want to map the whole workflow like tip to tail of what that might look like in terms of an AI agent that solves and automates that problem

12:22through and through. So and if you do that with not just like one workflow or automation, if you have like several of them. So here's a graph. It's a simple practice is like a design thinking's practice on how to know what problems to solve. You can imagine these are all like sticky notes and you're like, "Okay, like this one here is a customer support workflow. I don't know. This one over here is like another I want to invoice agent workflow so on and so forth and you just want to map them in terms of okay, what is the one that has the most value and takes the least effort, cost and

13:02time and that's your that's your golden area and you want to start there. Um and so that first call you're trying to get all these cards. You're trying to figure out what are all the different things we could automate. Maybe this is your audit in your case and okay, then once you figure out what the things are to automate I mean that's they literally just told you their problem. They just told you

13:23they want to automate this thing. It's like such an easy sell at that point. Um And so yeah. To kind of add to that, too. Sorry to cut you off, but to add to that, right? You can So, I mean, what you're explaining, the audit, like that's literally what we charge for. Like, people have paid us a thousand dollars for that exact call many times. And I think to even take it a step further is like you sell the audit as kind of like a foot in the door offer, cuz it's a lot easier for someone for you to be like, "Hey, you know, basically pay me a

13:53thousand dollars one-time fee, and I will show you all of the AI agent or automation opportunities that exist inside your business." Right. And then, when you're delivering the audit to them on a follow-up call, you're upselling the five grand a month managed service, but the the kicker is you credit the thousand dollars they paid you for the audit towards the first

14:14month's managed service. So, it's like, "Hey, Yeah, it's like, "Hey, the audit is complete like you already paid me a thousand. I'll make it free. I'll basically refund it to you if you go with our managed service offering." Right? So, that's a really good way for them to be like, "Oh, yeah, no-brainer." And honestly, like I think I'm going to adopt that 100% now that you say that, because it's like that is in and of itself a really good way to qualify leads is if

14:39Yep. if they're willing to pay money up front for an audit and not waste your time, then like yeah, like that that's actually like one of the best things you could do and just in terms of just protecting yourself and and making sure you're not wasting time with anybody. 100%. The audit's an easy sell, and then you even do a you can do a mini audit, right? Uncover one pain point, show them one opportunity. That's free. Full audit, you know, is five to seven or more pain points. That's a thousand bucks, and then managed service is like the money maker offer, and then we just credit the audit, the thousand dollar

15:13audit towards that service. Nice. That's kind of how I would structure it. Yeah. Oh, that's brilliant. So, for everyone watching this video, steal this steal this offer, steal this kind of like flow. Paid audit into a managed service agent. Um yeah, that's like that's some sauce right there. And Nick, can we can we put the Excalidraw drawing that you're showing here? Like can we put this diagram in the description so somebody could lit like somebody could literally if Nick's cool with it, they could take the Excalidraw that we'll put in the description in the show notes. They can give it to Claude or their Hermes agent

15:48or their open Claude or whoever and have it build out the full infrastructure. Like everything from the SOPs to the onboarding to the skills to like everything and then here in a couple of minutes we'll show you guys how to actually set up your first manage agent on Orgo, Nick's product and that that's kind of the whole thing A to Z. So like this video is literally will be a $5,000 a month managed agent

16:13business in a box, right? Exactly. Yeah, we'll definitely include the Excalidraw for sure. Um Yeah. So yeah, I mean when you when you solve when you find all the work workflow automations that you could solve and you pick the ones to solve and you do those first, it's kind of like the first hit, that's the first magic moment. Um and the reality is Open Claude, Hermes agent, these two tools, they're some of the stickiest products of all time. They grew so fast,

16:42they went so viral. Like you'd be silly to not try and get this in the hands of business owners and get them addicted to it because it's like the the retention problem for for those being like a product market fit solution, like that's already solved. Like you just need to get it out there. So um you need to be the implementer. So

17:02the term in terms of the stack, right? We can kind of dive in on like how to build these agents, but essentially there's a few tools I love to use. One is actually uh Compozio. So let me see I'll I'll I'll pull up uh composio.dev and let me just go into my account and then I'll pull it into the main screen

17:20here. But this this company they allow you to um connect all of your different apps in one connector so that you can give it to your agent. So you you see here I'm connected to my Gmail, I'm connected to my Superbase. I've all these connectors. And I literally can just go here to install. I'm not going to go there right now cuz it'll show my API key. You click the install, you give this to your agent, and now your agent has access to all of these different connectors with just one tool. The reason this is so important I want to I wanted to make a big point on this is because

17:55the the the fulfillment process for building managed agents for employee for companies the one of the biggest slowest painful like bottlenecks in doing this is getting all of their passwords and getting all the connections set up. Like it used to be a pain in the ass, but this tool just makes it so easy. You just have your customer go here, make sure they're on the for you over here uh

18:19not on the platform. They go here, they connect everything, and then they go to the install, and they'll give you their API key, and you just give that to the Hermes agent or the OpenGlot agent, and now it's connected to all their tools for them. It's like I love this company. Big shout out to them. And yeah, just to I'll I'll kind of put in a vouch for Compositio as well, and we're not like affiliated or sponsored in any way, but I I mean I have I think seven or eight different Hermes profiles like an hour ago before we sat down to record I was setting up Compositio with

18:49these new Hermes. And yeah, it's that simple. Like there's if somebody's capable of like, you know, people are going to think like, "Oh, well, I don't want to have to ask my client to do more than they need to or like what if they get stuck here trying to authenticate their tools?" It's literally the most brain dead like anybody if you if you have a business, you can set up Compositio. Like if you're competent enough to set up a business, you can one click to connect any of your tools to Compozio and and it's done. So I I know we're going to hear that objection and it's it's truly the

19:21easiest, most user-friendly process, even if you're not technical at all. So I just wanted to throw that out there. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of this product. Um I remember hearing about them early on and not knowing like for sure like what's the use case of this? And then there's a lot of companies that are like that. Like oh oh what's the use case of this product? Like what is this tool for agents? I don't get it. And then agents became a big thing with open claw and Hermes and it's like holy there's so many there's a whole new software stack that you can

19:48build for agents. Um Anyways, one of those is being the computers for the agents. And so I guess this is a good segue into kind of Orgo, our product, what we do, and what we what you can do with Orgo. So here is like the playground interface for inside of Orgo when you spin up a computer, I can call this Hermes agent test. Um and I can spin up a new computer and you can go here and see it's already spun up. Hermes agent test, brand new, and this is like a full proper Linux desktop. And what this serves for is for your agent to be

20:25installed inside of this so that it can live in here 24/7, operate the computer, run scheduled tasks. It has its own home. It has its own environment. And the way we built Orgo was to be so that you can manage fleets of these agents because you're going to have lots of workspaces. Each workspace it's is its own client. And inside of each workspace you can see here like we have like 50 computers in this one workspace

20:52here. So yeah, this is like the best way definitely to to manage fleets of agents is with Orgo. And of course I'm a little biased, but um you can see here we have this templates button. Templates is super exciting because we take out all of the difficulty with setting up Hermes open cloud cloud code. You just go to templates, you launch

21:15this computer. I'll say Hermes agent, I'll call it like Corey. And we'll launch this computer. And you can see here like I can also stop these computers when I'm not using them if I want to like save on resources or what have you. And then here in my workspace, the Hermes agent will be spun up. It'll take

21:36about a minute. And then we can just dive right into getting it all set up. But any questions so far? Yeah, I was going to say let me ask a clarifying question. So so with Orgo, right? So like you said it's in the top left we can kind of toggle between our different workspaces. And so the idea is that each client we have, so everybody each client that's paying us say five grand a month has

22:01their own workspace. And let's say we onboard a new client. Let's say it's like a law firm, right? So we would simply go to the top left spin up a new work workspace, call it client XYZ. And let's say this particular client we're setting them up with a Hermes agent. So all we're having to do is go to templates, one click to set up a Hermes agent and then it deploys a brand new virtual computer with a Hermes agent already installed on it. So then from there we can just dive right into step three in your Excalidraw which is the onboarding, right? Simply mapping like I

22:36assume sitting down with the client and having a conversation to kind of map out those initial workflows. And then where do we go from there? Like once we have an idea of like okay we we know the effort versus impact for this client, we know that these are the maybe the first two workflows that we're going to hand off to Hermes. How do we

22:54physically give those tasks to Hermes? And then the set the follow-up question is is the client ever having to to get into Orgo themselves or is this something that we're just handling end to end for them? Yeah, great question. So, I'll I'll answer it so the last question first. So, the in terms of what the client sees, the client almost never is actually inside of Orgo. Orgo is like your operator layer. It's like your That's what That's the one like thing I was unclear on. I'm like, I really hope

23:25the client never has to jump in here. Obviously not because it's a bad product, it's great, but because feel like as soon as you start talking to your non-technical client about like, "Hey, you've got to, you know, spin up a a Linux machine and then click that." Like, their eyes start to glaze over and that's when you lose them. So, the fact that they're not having to do that I think is like that's what they're paying

23:45you for. Exactly. Yeah, like that This is meant to be like your operator layer where you're going to manage their their fleets of computers or the fleets of computers that you manage for just all your clients. And you If you want to invite like other people into your workspace, you can invite here and you can actually just like collaborate on, you know, workspaces and computers

24:06together. Um we also have this like connect an agent feature here. So, obviously we have an MCP and CLIs and skills so that I can actually like this is really cool like I'll be on a walk and I'll get a message from a a customer like, "Hey, like my my my agent's not responding. Something happened." This used to be a a lot more common back back in the day when OpenClaw was like Um it was pre-Hermes. You just used OpenClaw and OpenClaw was super unreliable uh and the gateway would always go down so I'd always have to fix it. And now and what I would do I'd be on a walk and and the

24:43gateway would go down and get a a client, you know, "Hey, my OpenClaw's not responding." And I would just tell my agent who had the Orgo MCP connector say, "Hey, Mark's Mark's agent went down. Can you like get the gateway back up?" And it would do it because it has the Orgo MCP and it could talk to the computers, go inside the computers, fix the Hermes agent, get the gateway back up, and do it all for me. So, um yeah, that's that's this connector button here. You can essentially connect your cloud code to manage the fleet of Orgo computers. And I'll just show that real quick because I

25:17think it's like pretty cool. Um So, let me Yeah, being able to essentially being able to troubleshoot a client agent deployment from your phone from anywhere at any given time is insane. Like I know like you said like early open cloud days is like you literally spent just as much time troubleshooting it as you did actually using it, but I think this really solves that pain point. And like I guess that's really only possible with Orgo, right? Like unless you had some super complex setup like whether locally or whether on like a VPS that would probably take a ton of time and know how to configure. Like

25:55Orgo is kind of what makes that possible. Is that right? Exactly. Like Yeah, that's exactly right. Like you you could set up, you know, these Hermes agent on a on a VPS or on a on a you know, another virtual cloud computer, but like no one has really made it super easy to manage like fleets of these agents. Um so case. Like that's that's what Orgo's built for is like if you're if you're deploying agents as a service, then it makes sense to do it on Orgo. Like if you just if you just wanted like your own standalone like single Hermes agent, probably not the tool for you. Like is

26:32that is that fair to say? Yeah, like if you want to set up a single Hermes agent, like you could use Orgo, but it's really meant to be for like teams and agencies and like software companies. Like let's say you want to let's say you want to make an app for one-click Hermes for solar the solar industry. You could literally do it all with Orgo. We have all of our APIs, all of the docs and everything so that everything that's a functionality within Orgo in terms of spinning up a computer, installing Hermes via the template, or anything, controlling the computer, you can do all of that, access all of that

27:06through our APIs, and you can literally build an app so it's like one-click solar panel Hermes agent for, you know, solar panel industry. Um And you can just go take that, sell that as a product-ized just app, really. Um and yeah, I like to call it like the you can create your own Perplexity computer for your own industry, you know? So, if you're familiar with Perplexity computer, it's like it's a super easy kind of out of the box open

27:31claw in a way. It's not exactly like open claw. It's like 60% there, but you can do that for industry, and that's the valuable part because it's like the more the riches are in the niches. The more specific of a workflow and and problems that you can solve um out of the box, I think that's just like that's the opportunity. So, um Yeah, you can see here I have my Claude code managing my Orgo workspace in that computer we just spun up Hermes agent for Corey. It's running and it's it's

27:59all it's ready to go. So. Uh and then Yeah. And then like you said, so in this case, right? My Claude code is connected to all of my connectors. It has Compozio as well. And if we were in a call right now and you're explaining to me your workflow and your your you know, problems that you need solved, and this call was over and I'd have it in my granola, I could literally just ask my Claude code, "Hey, I just got done with this call with Corey. I need to build out this automation, this workflow, and I want it I want I need to build it into a skill for his Corey

28:33Hermes agent computer. And I from here, from Claude code, I could just do that." And it's like done for you, you know? It's like it's insane. Um Cuz it's taking the transcript, like it's basically taking the client's own words from the transcript and saying like, "Okay, this is a pain point. This is how they're currently doing the process end to end. Great, I have that context. Let me turn it into a skill, and then using the Orgo MCP, they can basically port that skill over to the Hermes agent that's on the Orgo computer, and then now like I mean theoretically within 10 minutes of you wrapping up that that

29:08audit call with your client, you could have the V1 of the skill created, handed to Hermes already, and ready to test. Exactly. Yeah. That's insane. So, and one one more thing too I want to mention for the audience. So, obviously we're talking about Orgo, Nick is a co-founder at Orgo. He's put together a Is it a discount code? Is it a What do we have for the audience if they want to go try

29:32out Orgo themselves? So, everyone can get started. You can use code Corey. It's just uh Corey's name, c o r e y, and you'll get your first 3 days for free. Uh at checkout, you just type in the code Corey, you'll get the first 3 days for free, you'll get 20% off the first 3 months, and you can try out Orgo, give it a shot, get your first customers on there, start making money, um and yeah, we're just excited to see like what everyone builds on top of it. Um you know, we just launched as well. So, I don't Have you ever heard Corey when people say, "Oh, like Open Claw is going

30:06to um or Claude is going to destroy Open Claw, and and Claude's going to destroy Hermes, and no one's going to use these anymore." Have you ever heard that argument? Yeah. Yeah. So, what's interesting is with Orgo, you don't really care how you solve the problem. You see here, this is a Windows computer I have right here. You can see I was talking to the agent over here. It's like kind of like we have our own like Manas. And in this Windows computer, I can install my client's Codex. I can install my client's Claude code. And even managing their Codex for them and setting up skills for them because the customer

30:43these these businesses you think that they know what a MCP is and what a skill is. They don't know. They don't have time to set that up. So even if you just manage that for them and you use the Orgo Windows computers to do that because you can download the desktop app for Claude or you can download the desktop app for Codex and set up the connectors for them and set up the skills for them. And then on their account once when they open up their computer and they open up their Codex, it syncs to the cloud because the connectors and skills they do that. Like

31:11if you just do that for them, that's that's huge. Like they love that. So I think that's like a that's like another thing that's unique with Orgo is like okay, it's one thing to get set up, you know, with Codex or Claude code on your own computer. The beauty of Hermes and Open Claude is like, oh, now you can do this for other people via VPS, but even beyond that, setting up Claude code and opening eyes Codex for other people used to not be able to really do it cuz it required to be on their computer and now you can do it by just setting it up on

31:41an Orgo computer. So That's and that solves a big pain point my business partner was talking about last week. We're like, we've had to turn down like we've had people come to us like you said and they want us to they want us to literally install Claude co-work end to end for them, onboard it for them,

31:59put in a couple of skills, etc. And it's like we've done that before on a call with the client like walking them through it, but that's a pain in the ass and you always run into roadblocks and it takes Yeah. five times longer than you expected to. And he was like, well, for us to do it for them, like they would literally have to set up TeamViewer on their computer and we'd have to go in like that would be a pain, but again, Orgo pretty much solves that pain point and makes it to where we can you you can offer done for you co-work installations or done for you

32:29Claude code installations or done for you Codex installations. So that's a little different than like a managed Hermes or a managed Open claw, but it's the same concept and you could easily charge you know, a 5 to 10k setup fee for for that. And and a monthly retainer to either, you know, build X amount of new skills per month or to maintain it for them or to just be on call to troubleshoot it if they run into any issues. Like that's almost like a hybrid of our AI concierge offer where it's like, hey, for, you know, X amount of money per month, I will set up your

33:04Codex or your Claude code or your co-work and I will be there to basically walk you through anything related to it on a, you know, six business hour SLA via my my Orgo computer. So, it just there's so many so many directions you can go with this. Yeah, it's like your creativity is, you know, it's it's the limit of your creativity, honestly. Like over here, I wanted to show this, too. When you spin up a Hermes template in Orgo and you type in Hermes model here in the terminal, by the way, you can SSH into this computer. So, like I can run from my own computer, I can just connect to

33:40this computer. So, if I want to use my own terminal, I can do that. I don't have to be over here in the web app. But, I'll go ahead, I'll set this up. So, I'll do the the news research portal. This is the company that makes Hermes agent. I'll just copy this link real quick. I'll go here, paste it in, I'll authorize it. And I just wanted to show how once I have these credentials and off connected to this agent, obviously, it'll Okay, login successful, cool. And then I can go here, I can select my model. I always use GPT 5.5. I think it's pretty efficient for

34:14open claw and Hermes. And so, now that's set up. And so, if I type in Hermes here, it's all set up. It's going to get connected. Okay, say, hey. And we're off to the races. And so, that was like super quick and easy. And what we can do Hermes installation. I I literally counted it, and so I think Yeah, that's

34:40that in and of itself is value. It's insane. Like this used to take forever. This used to actually take forever. Like, okay, I got to get a VPS, spin it up, takes a few minutes, and you can install the agent, get it all connected to all the connectors, compose your solves at. So, now it's super easy, and here's the cool part. If I made a templated snapshot, like, okay, I'm

35:03going to set up Corey's Hermes agent. I'm going to set up set it up to be kind of uh general in the sense of all the skills I give it, it's going to solve problems for like well, I don't know. Let me use all um law firms as an example. We're going to solve uh matrimonial law firms and their problems, and we're going to give skills to do that. Okay, we need bait stamping, we need demand letter

35:26skill generation, so on and so forth. And then, once I have that golden snapshot set up without any kind of customer-specific details so that I can kind of templatize it, I can clone this computer, and guess what? I clone this computer, everything comes over exactly one-for-one, perfect replica, and even the everything as far as even like the auth. So, you saw like I connected to my Hermes account, so it

35:53would use my LLM's credits for that. When I type Hermes in here, Hermes is is still installed. This is a brand new computer, it's a clone, and it has my account still connected to it. So, it's like if you made the perfect snapshot for like a Hermes agent, you could essentially productize it and just make infinite clones of it. Uh and look, now

36:17it's it's already connected. Hey. And this is not the same computer as the first one. So, we just cloned the first one, and it's already set up and ready to go. That that's definitely how you'd productize that, right? And Yeah. you know, you talk about kind of going back to the audit, like that for let's say you do let's say you do want to use that example like matrimonial law firms. Like we we have managed agents for matrimonial law firms. We have a good understanding of what the vast majority of them do. So we've got like these 10 or 15 skills that all of them can make

36:49use of. Well, to to build those 10 or 15 skills the first time around, you do that audit, which would probably be a pretty in-depth audit with like an a lawyer from one of those firms for example. But you could have a voice agent that does the audit. Like you could spin up a voice agent I assume on an Orgo or just in general that is trained to just ask the right questions and ask deep questions for those for that that ICP, right? And go

37:16and pull out all those pain points. Yeah. from there it's like the the voice agent is the one doing the audit. Like that's what we have a voice agent that does our audits. But the same concept can apply here as being the first step for the for the paid managed agent as well. Exactly. Oh, that's such a good point actually. Like you just gave me an idea of I should really just make uh kind of scheduled tasks that every time I get off a call with a customer and they obviously they're going to tell me what they want. What am I doing? I should just have my cloud code on scheduled

37:48task like be auto implementing these upgrades to these agents in the fleet. Um Yeah. It's like you can actually do that. Yeah. um Yeah. Uh So that's that's in terms of getting set up like that's that's pretty much the stack. Hermes agent uh Composio, Orgo. I like Agent Mail. Have you used Agent Mail? I have I'm familiar with it. I haven't used it. And that's it's what agentmail.com or .co Yeah, and that just it gives your AI agent their own email inbox. Is that

38:22right? Yeah, and that's nice because there's it's something nice to be said about having your agent have its own email. It's just it feels right. It's the same way it has its own computer. It's like it has its own email. Um and then I actually do use agent phone. [laughter] Yeah. And now there's agent card. I'm going to get set up with agent cards. Okay, going

38:42to do all that. Um so that's kind of the stack and then I guess as far as the last step, so guys, it's so important, you know, I don't know about you, Corey, when you set these things up, but when it does go when it like it used to be a really big problem. It would go down a lot in the early days of Open Claw. Uh these days it's it's nowhere near that

39:03level of inconsistencies. Um and be a lot of a lot of that comes down to we have watchdogs in place. So whenever a customer has a cron job that especially is a very important cron job or scheduled task that they need to rely on, you should have a watchdog set up in place to make sure that whenever that goes down for whatever reason or whenever something that is bound to potentially break, like maybe they run

39:28out of credits. Um any kind of thing that could go wrong, you want a watchdog in place so that you get emailed about it before it happens so your customer doesn't have to tell you about it because you just want to make sure like once again, you're managing this agent for them. They shouldn't be the ones to tell you when things break. You should be alerted before them. And then you should go in and fix it. And you can use the Orgo agent to go in and and and solve the problem for you or use Cloud Code to do

39:56it. Um so that's just a really big point I wanted to make is always implement watchdogs on the very important uh like reliability tasks that your your customer will have. And then And you look so good. You look so good when you tell them about their problem before they even notice it. Like, "Hey, by the way, you know, your agent went went down for 10 minutes, but we were on top of it. We already fixed it. This is just an FYI. They're going to be like, "Wow, I didn't even realize." Like that Okay, yeah, that's what I'm paying them five grand a month for. Like that's kind

40:27of reiterates their decision to to keep paying you. I don't know if you if you've also had this too, Corey, of like um like a lot of these business customers B2B is also like really fun because like I've I've I've flown out a lot of our customers are in New York and I've flown out to New York to meet meet

40:43them in person even. And like a lot of this AI managed service kind of opportunity, if you're good with people, like they will they will they will trust you so much. They will will just want to work with you because you're the guy you're their guy. Like and I think that no one talks about this, but like if you could just be Okay, you're good at AI, you're a good communicator, and you get along with your customers, like I don't know. I just That just came to mind just now in terms of like I think that's super

41:15important. Um and so I in terms of like churn risk or anything like that, you really are becoming a part of the team when you implement these agents for these companies and these businesses and they really start to depend on you a lot and you start to drive a lot of outcomes in their business even maybe more so than a lot of their own employees because you have so much leverage from the agents and they associate the agents with you and it's like it's kind of incredible. So, I just say

41:40that. Completely agree, 100%. Yeah, I think it's it's a it's a cool feeling and I guess one thing in terms of setting up these managed agent token usage-wise, I use a Codex subscription now. I give each customer their own 200 a month plan. I don't really run out of it, honestly. Um if I I I see one customer potentially might, I'll just get them another Codex plan. Have two. Um so yeah, I think that's like the way to do

42:09it. And then yeah, I guess as far as last other things um I mean that's really pretty much the whole stack. So And and just to go back to the math real quick, right? So you have that last box like 10 clients equals 50k MRR which is run entirely by one person and agents, right? And some people might look at that and be like, you know, oh that's an exaggeration. Like that's that's not realistic. And if anything I think it's incredibly realistic, right? I mean you talk about

42:40Definitely. 10 10 clients, right? Obviously this is a higher ticket service so you don't need hundreds of clients to make this work. And if you are doing the things that you mentioned in the like how to find clients box up there if you're posting content, if you're talking to people, if you're you know, posting client wins, you're getting testimonials, you're getting case studies, you're asking for referrals, if you're just doing all the basic sales motions required to sell a service then 10 like 10 clients in a year, you're talking about what? One every 6 weeks? Like literally one client one new client every 6 weeks on average. I mean,

43:22when you break it down like that, that's not unrealistic. So within a year of getting one client every 6 weeks you're going to be at 600 grand a year in in ARR, right? And your margins, I mean you have in the box there like 85% gross margins. Probably even higher than that. Like probably 90% gross margins. So you know, I say all that to say is like is this easy? Well, no because if it was everybody would be doing it. Is it a simple business model at its core that any realistically competent person with drive could execute? Sure. But I mean most people watching this unfortunately to say still

43:59won't take action or they won't take action long enough and consistently enough to make it work. But that's that's a competitive advantage for the people like me and you who like see this opportunity, we're locked in, we're we're posting content, we're you know, we're we're grinding every day and that's that's the opportunity. So true, dude. Like honestly, even when when we first started running this offer, it was a little bit like risky. I And I'm I'm saying this to kind of emphasize the point of you have to be willing to A, think long-term. Right now, what what we were thinking when when we launched the offer of like unlimited tokens,

44:33unlimited agents, all this, it sounded crazy at the time, especially cuz OpenClaw when it first came out was like super expensive to run Opus for OpenClaw, which was like the only model that was really good at it. And yeah, we didn't make money that first month of like total cost of tokens and then like even charging 5K a month, like we still didn't make money cuz it was that expensive. It was that expensive, but we knew that the models would get cheaper and the cost of intelligence would go to zero and then

45:03we would just capture the whole spread. And so like right now when it comes to margin, like I don't have any problem paying if if and we don't you don't even have This problem's already practically solved with the whole Codex subscription plan. So it was actually quicker than I thought. But uh I wouldn't have a problem paying more for tokens or more for the cost of doing business for this sort of business model, even if it even if I had to pay more. I wouldn't have a problem with it because the cost of everything is going is going to zero. And so um yeah, I I I just say all that to say

45:35think long-term. Think about going um and how to like take advantage of that. So yeah. 100%. Well, Nick, this was awesome. And this is something that like we said in the beginning, somebody could take the Excalidraw diagram, which we'll put in the description in the show notes below. They could take that, they could hand it to their Hermes agent or their OpenClaw or Claude code and have it in a couple of hours running autonomously, build out the entire business plan, the whole infrastructure, build you a website, build you offer, build your marketing material, everything. So, yeah, this has been I think really tactical stuff that

46:12people can implement right away. And then guys, just another reminder, if you want to test out Orgo, which is what me and my business partner Nick are using for our managed agents and what we're using as the infrastructure for how we build this business, cuz this is exactly what we're doing. We're focusing on a five grand a month lead gen,

46:31basically managed agent lead gen offer. That's what we're building right now. We're doing it on top of Orgo. So, guys, use the code Corey and that's we'll have a direct link to Orgo with the code in the description as well, but that'll get you I think you said what? Three your first three days free and then your

46:49first three months at 20% off. Yep, exactly. Okay, yeah, so that's a steal. So, go use that and guys, hit Nick up on social. Nick, where do you want people to to follow you or where do you want to point people aside from Yeah, I'm pretty active on I try and post cool demos on on Twitter. It's just my name and then also yeah, YouTube. I'm going to start posting more content on this sort of kind of opportunity around the business, but also just how to set up these agents and how to do cool things with them. So, yeah, feel free to give me a follow

47:22there. Corey, thank you. This has been great and I'm excited to see what your audience what everyone does with setting these things up and combining it with the audits. I think the audits are brilliant. I'm going to start doing the audits. Um, so, yeah, thanks for having me, man. Yeah, thanks for coming on and guys, we'll put links to all of Nick's socials and his profiles in the description and then the show notes. So, thanks for watching and we will be back in a couple

47:46of days. Cool. Cheers.