80 mins of life hacks to level up your career

0:00what do you mean by chasing generational wealth is overrated and wealth is underrated I'm not chasing generational wealth like I don't need hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars this came to me uh a couple years ago we got offered $100 million blank check to basically scale out late checkout and build build out a bunch of new products faster acquire faster just take our model and just add steroid to it and we turned it down and the VC basically called me up like sweating bullets he [Music] goes people need a sip on Jonathan jce cream Courtney yeah I'm going to just start calling myself Jay ice cream now

0:54on your podcast I like calling you jaice cream yeah that's not what I intended when I uh created my gamer tag but you can call me whatever you like greig the internet bro that's the Internet it's your podcast dude what do you want to talk about today I've got three options for you and I'm going to tell you them in order of what I think I would be most interested in number one and also this straight up I think would just work well for views and engagement and all that good YouTube stuff number one I've got a pile of books next to me and [Music] and these are the books that had the

1:35biggest effect on me getting to my first million uh running my business so I thought a conversation around which books were actually influential not just inspiring but also had practical sort of uh outcomes and measurable outcomes so I thought that that could be an episode so it's like the books that made us our first million or some [ __ ] all right um the second idea I had was on your Twitter and this is sort of in a similar Vein on your Twitter you posted 50 like 50 life hacks for you today no 50 life hacks for you in today's stressful competitive world and you had 50 life

2:18hacks I thought we could go through those see where we get to I think each of them is really interesting I think that could be really useful so both of those are more on the entrepreneurial Journey finding an advantage as an entrepreneur Vibe and then the third thing is just like I have an idea for a startup okay let's start with the IDE let's go backwards we're going to start with the idea then we're going to go the life hacks and then we're going to go the books that if we get to it no yeah if well it's gonna be seven hour episode listen to the whole episode to to get to

2:53it we are going to get to it we'll only get to it if you like and comment right now and know we'll know it's the least you can do it's the least you could do after all we've done after all we've been through together all after yeah I mean we're not it's not like we're someone's paying us to make these videos I mean I'm certainly not getting paid anyway I'm waiting on that check um so yeah please all we ask for is a like and a a positive comment about my hair and um so before the episode started I asked uh Greg how how the comments were and he

3:26said some people didn't like your hair and I was like okay I'm going to go look for those comments now um so we need more we need more positive hair comments so I got a big haircut in two episodes ago it was a big haircut uh so we'll need a we'll need some updates on that okay so I'll we'll go with some startup ideas I'm going to hit you with one and I'm gonna I'm GNA be honest with you that actually this idea came from ammer who works at AJ and smart um we were chatting around lunch and I was like I'm going on Greg's p

4:00and you know he loves ideas he's he loves all these ideas he kind of like stopped talking and just went fully quiet and just stared into space and then he came up with this great idea well I like it anyway and his idea is a product called drip right and the the idea behind this product it's kind of like a you know how you I don't know if you use Twitter like this or if you use the internet like this I have like tons of bookmarks tons of screenshots tons of things where I'm like oh my God that's a cool quote that's a cool thing I want to check this

4:35out later um and also I use like Pocket Cast to put articles into just collecting loads of stuff but in the end the truth is I very rarely go back to any of it and I think that's really Common People rarely go back to any of this readit later stuff even the like best possible readit later software it still acts as a bit of like a hole for all of stuff it's just like a big black box um and ammer had this idea which I thought was pretty cool for a product that well he he said all of these services are basically procrastination machines like screenshotting bookmarking save later

5:15you rarely go back and take action on these things and he had an idea for an AI startup which I thought was pretty cool and the idea is the product itself combines your sources let's say just you could even just start with bookmarks on Twitter on X um and pocket C uh the using pocket cast the things you've actually saved so you don't even have to create a new plugin for it and instead of it just being a massive pile of stuff that you go to you get things drip fed to you at a pace that you feel like and this could be something as simple as SMS

5:52so once a day you wake up and it's like combining maybe three or four things that have something similar since synthesizing them together and saying and giving you that idea so an example of that could be you wake up in the morning you look at your text there's a lot of weird ones you know like a lot of a lot of weird [ __ ] like I don't know just I wish that person would stop texting me but anyway next to that you have drip right and drip is an AI That's dressed up in cool drip right it's just got it's it's very viby and you open it

6:25up and it's like essentially it's your thought for the day or your thing for the day or your idea for the day or it could even just be your inspiration for the day and it's taking the topic is around one topic that I got really into a couple of months ago was this idea of atomization I don't know if you ever read this article called the atomization of life I think the guy is called nat Alias anyway I saved that article and then I Googled it and I saved loads of other things and then I bookmarked loads of stuff and the idea would be one day

6:56just it could be a year later it's just like quick ad break let me tell you about a business I invested in it's called boring marketing.com so a few years ago I met this group of people that were some of the best SEO experts in the world they were behind getting some of the biggest companies found on Google and the secret sauce is they've got a set of technology and AI that could help you out rank your competition so for my own businesses I wanted that I didn't want to have to rely on Mark Zuckerberg I didn't want to depend on ads to drive customers to my businesses

7:33I wanted to rank high in Google that's why I like SEO and that's why I use boring marketing.com and that's why I invested in it they're so confident in their approach that they offer a 30-day Sprint with 100% money back guarantee who does that nowadays so check it out highly recommend boring marketing.com this you know a couple of months ago you were researching atomization here's a couple of new things that have come up around this topic here's a some of the quotes that you highlighted here are a couple of things you were interested in and it's just a little one pager or just a text message and that's literally it

8:08you can either go down the rabbit hole back into that topic or nothing it's just reminding you of interesting things you've collected and there's no Central interface where you go and see all the stuff so you don't have another dump to go to to see where all your articles that you're not reading are stored and over time maybe it can get smarter and smarter and like I don't want to make it unrealistic because if you're talking about like a oneperson startup you're not going to be it's not going to be able to tell which parts of podcasts you listen to etc etc but you could go further but the initial idea is

8:43a fairly cheap service that drip feeds you back information that you've stored for yourself at a pace that you wanted to drip feed it to you and it's called drip AI drip a drip it's a little idea someone should do it would be really cool if you can also connect the dots so for me I I'm like one of I'm one of those people too like I I have like thousands of bookmarks and I bookmark them I'm like in my mind I'm like I'm going to get back to this yeah I'm totally getting back to this never get back to it in fact on my newsletter I

9:21started just sending out five bookmarks uh on my call Gregs letter Greg Eisenberg dcom and I started doing that because I literally don't look at my bookmarks and I was like this is going to force me like creating a newsletter around these five most interesting bookmarks of the week is going to force me to drill in my head that these bookmarks I need to like read them write notes and but then I forget about them so yes absolutely I forget about what if you could What If instead of drilling into your head you could drip out of your head that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying you know

9:58the drip noise that's what saying I think it would be cool because I think a lot of people there I don't know why everyone loves to make bookmarks uh products like collect all your bookmarks collect all your stuff I'm like I'm clicking the things in the apps that store this [ __ ] for me my problem isn't collecting my problem is getting it brought back to me you know that's what's actually my issue yeah I think the the easy way to do this so it you know you can still be a oneman startup and build this and not have to do crazy AI stuff build a big team and raise

10:31Venture is when you sign up to the service it could say what are your goals and what kind of business are you in so you know for example I could say I'm an agency owner and I'm trying to get to 75 million this year in revenue and I'm looking for Content that XYZ and then from those data points from that first- party data from the data of the bookmarks then it's like oh hey we're going to like resurface this bookmark with this like you know new piece of information that wpp has like acquired this agency yes and we think Community notes Edition or something yeah I would

11:11just start if I was starting this tomorrow and I just wanted to make like 99 cents per person per month or something I would just focus purely on X my target marketer entrepreneurs or creatives who like and bookmark crap tons of stuff on X and would just simply build something that collects that and sends it back to them like it doesn't even it can be more like a boomerang thing it's like just it always it always chooses thing it kind of chooses things from a year ago one day two weeks ago another day and in the beginning it would be a little bit random just to see

11:48if people care about the idea of reminiscing and bringing these things back and then maybe adding on this context thing like there's been an update to this or this tweet this person who tweeted this thing has talked more about it again and here's that um so I think there's there's a very simple basic baby version of this which could be free and maybe with ads or something and then there's like the AI powered version of it which adds context and synthesizes I I don't think I I I do a free version like to me it's you do a paid version I think uh the way to get a

12:29lot of people excited about this is you create a bunch of Twitter accounts that are like Shan pu's bookmarks Greg eisenberg's bookmarks J ice creams bookmarks and maybe what you do is you go to some of these creators and you're like hey I'll give you $1,000 a month if you just like share share your bookmarks with me I think that's pretty cool that could even be we take a couple of steps back that's another product now where you could just have that as an email list true oh my Greg Eisenberg Shan Puri and someone else's like it's basically the entrepreneur secret bookmarks paid Weekly Newsletter it's just here's what

13:15other people are liking and interested in that would be I would definitely pay for that how much would you pay for it um I'm probably not the right person to ask because I would probably pay a lot because I you I just spoke to you before this podcast about how much I'm about to pay for a mentor um but I would I mean I would minimum pay like $10 a month or something by the way I thought you were going to say like yeah minimum pay like10 to $50,000 a month were like $10 a month I don't know uh you know you think you're a baller you think you're a

13:51baller because you're about to spend $10 a month on this service I do 10 I do 10 no I just mean like I'm I'm already sold on being able to access things like that like I think if we're trying to do like a large target market but then again I mean if we're thinking about people who are entrepreneurs who are like maybe a couple of million behind those people whose bookmarks you get to look at that could be pretty interesting but yeah I would I don't know I never know what I would pay for something until someone sells it to me totally you know what I mean totally but

14:27I think there's two ideas here and they're all around bookmarks people don't need another bookmarking app people no no don't do it bookmarks do you use any of these things like pocketcasts and stuff no I use Twitter bookmarks religiously and that's it but there you go okay so book people who use Twitter bookmarks a product for them that's a beautiful Niche a people entrepreneurs who use Twitter bookmarks very often and obviously never look at them again uh come on that's a great Niche all right come on come on why aren't you more excited yeah why aren't you more excited why isn't someone building this right now it's

15:21such a great idea again the drip aspect of this is from ammer at AJ and smart I want to give him all the credit ammer you're a legend ammer Khalifa on X I just want I just don't want to take the credit because he gave me that idea yeah but we took in our defense we took the idea to the next level yeah exactly we took the the seed yeah the seed was was B SE spread the seed the seed was H what does it what happens when a chicken seed was laid why is it laid like an egg I don't know I saw it happen with my own eyes though

16:02he's a weird guy you know then I sat on it and incubated it for a few hours and then I brought it to you and we hatched it yes and then we fried it and it was amazing you are lovely thank you we consumed it yeah we don't talk about eggs enough on this podcast we don't and then everyone who's listening to it sipped it and they sipped the egg juice you know when I'm looking back on episodes of this podcast and I'm thinking thinking a lot of people you know there's no we're going back to the egg juice you can't just say and they sip the egg juice and just like segue it

16:37into something else sip the egg juice that's my next idea egg juice but I was I was going to make a point related like when I come when I come to this podcast so obviously I I've been on a couple of episodes of this podcast and I'm sort of like a an an an anomaly in it like as as in I'm I'm regularly here but when I look at the comments I'm like oh yeah people don't realize that my brain is a bit broken and that I'm just kind of also a silly man I'm a silly man and when people come here for like hardcore backtack business ideas and I'm on here

17:16like there was there was some guy in your in your comments last week um who was like uh I want to give you some constructive feedback great yeah I saw that one don't have this guy on your podcast anymore and what did I do what did you do I actually didn't check the follow I I texted you and I was like hey you want to record a pod right now hell yeah I would like to give you some constructive feedback Greg this guy sucks is that what he said no it was like I'd like to give you some constructive feedback uh something like I don't like listening to this guy and

17:55doesn't bring value and he just Rambles and I'm like this I mean true the reality of the situation is that startup idea with the Insight around bookmarks is a huge Insight now he should give constructive feedback on how huge of an Insight it is I like period that's a that's a really good Insight no and it's something I'm gonna think about so yeah listen you might talk about egg juice here and there and that's really really strange and unusual and I I hope you're well but I'm not well but you know in a sea of egg juice you you sprinkle on some great startup ideas and some good insights that I

18:32think people should be taking notes uh and I I take notes so that's why I bring you on all right yeah thank you Matt all right see you I'm going to bed next uh next segment you wanted to talk about life hacks okay look you did this post right I bookmarked it yeah you did Greg I bookmarked the [ __ ] out of it um I Su your team has to I'll try to reduce the swearing because I know they have to beep it out okay so let's I'm gonna I'm you did this post on Twitter your team can maybe bring it up on screen it's 50

19:06life hacks I'm going to just go to a few of them and ask you to expand on it uh or to talk about them and or just very heavily agree with them maybe I'll just choose the top 10 of your 50 life hacks does that sound good well let's do that but be sure to bring up the one around Instagram close friends okay I'm gonna do that first first thing and it's really the first one use social media apps on desktop only so that you don't get sucked in I mean so [ __ ] like do you basically then have no social media apps on your

19:44phone I the only social media app I have on my phone is Tik Tok oh and that sounds like an addictive one though and it's like buried away and it isn't something that I post on and it for me it's not an addictive one so I think I mean I think the advice is don't have the you know certain apps are more addictive to to certain people like Twitter for me would be the most addictive Instagram to others would be the most addictive so I just remove the ones that are addictive to me and uh it's just the experience on desktop isn't as dopamine friendly yeah than on

20:27mobile you got to be crazy to put social media apps on your phone just you got to be crazy period I agree do you um do you sometimes though sneakily log into X on your Safari browser no actually I don't you don't no but sometimes I will say if I'm out of the house for like a really long time or I'm traveling or something and I've got like a a tweet or something that I just can't get out of my head I'll Banger a banger as as say I'll I'll download it and and you know quickly push push a live and then delete it after okay you'll you'll

21:08delete it yeah I I deleted social media on my phone years ago but I'll occasionally get sucked into you know it's your fault that I'm back on X I wasn't I was off X for like four or five years before I did the first one of these podcasts and then you were screenshotting what people were saying about it and I was like I'll just log in and now I'm so addictive it's so good um but yeah I also don't put these on my phone and again I try to use this brick like this brick thing that I talked about a couple of episodes to to block

21:40things okay use analogies people remember them can you give me an example of what you're talking about there in analogy format I tweeted this uh and someone who listens to the Pod was like yeah and the river goes into the river into steps into the river remember from episodes ago the worst analogy ever yeah I made like the worst analogy ever yeah so I read a book a long time ago and maybe this is actually interesting because we're going to talk about books later but it was called made to stick I love that book you remember that book I remember it and I love it and I actually

22:18refer to it a lot in my training when I'm training people in facilitation so I read it maybe 15 years ago at this point and and it talked a lot about how do you communicate in a way that sticks with people and one of the ways is just analogies like the reality is when you have a conversation with someone for an hour they're going to remember one or two things that you were covered in egg juice and the smell of it even egg juice right it's so visual you can like kind of picture it I can picture it it it's oh yeah you certain you can smell it

22:55unfortunately MH smell it right now so analogies work and in in the context of business specifically like creating content selling people analogies just really stick in people's minds absolutely um especially if you're I I think one of the best analogy formats because I remember so made to stick is an amazing book uh it also talks about this concept of the curse of knowledge which is amazing the idea is that once you know a topic you now can't like you can't act as if you don't know it anymore you can't imagine what it's like to be a person who doesn't know this thing anymore and so you actually get

23:35worse at explaining something the more you know it so when I'm trying to sell uh facilitation training and I've been a facilitator and a designer for 14 years I have to remember this curse of knowledge thing and bring myself right back to the basics and analogies are an amazing way to bring things back to the basics and there's this like uh format that I saw Russell Brunson use to make things into more of an analogy and it's like he uses the you know how or it's like yeah it's the the simple format he has is the it's kind of like or it's kind of like when so

24:21sometimes it's like you're you're thinking about okay how do I explain something like facilitation to people well it's kind of when you're on a trip with your friends and nobody's in charge of how we're going to get from the airport to the hotel and it just feels super chaotic and everyone's kind of bickering at each other well imagine if you had if one of the people in the group just said I'm going to take care of Transportation it's kind of like that it's kind of like and this is something we actually use in our ads is this analogy is the being on being on vacation with your friends supposed to

24:53be something nice but it gets really frustrating when everyone needs to decide where to go for dinner and imagine if there was someone who was taking the lead so that it's kind of like thing when you're making copy when you're writing copy when you're writing an ad just keeping this written somewhere in front of you it's kind of like and then something relatable so anything you're trying to sell or anything you're trying to talk about you got to remember that it's kind of like and something relatable something I've learned from analogy creating the other the other thing related to this that some of the the smartest entrepreneurs I

25:29know do is they make it conversational when they're writing copy or they're communicating so what they'll do is instead of saying I remember a story that Steve Jobs said and he and just like explaining what the story is you say you know when Steve Jobs was at WWDC and you know everyone thought that you know Blackberry owned mobile Steve Jobs goes up on stage he goes so using the words he goes and then you just talk like you are Steve Jobs when you're conversational and you talk like the person that you're bringing up it puts the person listening a gives them a front row seat and it is just a way more effective

26:19way to get your point across 100% agree with that have you ever had Neville madora on your podcast no I don't know him but you need to get him on your podcast I I I do need to get him on the podcast he has a book called this book will teach you to write better uh it takes 15 minutes to read it's like an Amazon printed book and it goes into a lot of these topics about how to tell stories from other people's perspectives but he has one statement in there when it comes to copy when it comes to all of this thing we're talking about and he

26:50said when you're writing when you're writing for and he goes and he goes and yeah and he goes did I actually say that he he said he said oh yeah okay and he goes and I'll just do his accent and fully no and he goes when you're thinking about writing for people the one thing you have to have locked into your head is nobody cares about you they only care about themselves and this is one of the key this this Insight that I got when I read that book really locked in for me to the point that whenever I'm writing copy or whenever I'm talking to

27:21my team about copy I'm like I'm like and I go are we writing here about and about how great we are or are we talking about what they're going to get so this is something that just like super locks into my brain the funniest part of what you just said was that you tried to do Neville madora accent but then you just used your own accent oh no I was thinking like if you're going to really embody the person and I try to do a big Austin accent and if I was trying to do the Steve Jobs California accent and getting like like if I overthought if I

27:56if I really Inc correctly took your advice and I thought you meant full impersonation yeah like you start talking about Steve Jobs and then you're like oh give me a second and you like pull up a black turtleneck and you just start changing yeah change for 15 minute change yeah and then like practicing for ages and then the person's gone all right move on this one I really want to know what you think about this because or I really want to know the exact thing you do you said you should show up to meetings with small gifts the ROI is insane um I have a lot of meetings

28:35coming up uh what with especially with people who are a lot more important than me I would say they are more important than me but like they're more successful than me what kind of gift I'm always wondering what to do like tell talk about this tell me what you do so when I first moved to San Francisco I became friends with a group of 10 Japanese people who had just just moved to San Francisco too and they all could barely speak English really was they were learning about American culture and stuff like that and one of the first things I noticed was every time I'd meet them they would show up

29:12with a gift and although I didn't need a pancake mix as a gift which was one of the gifts it didn't need stuff like that it was just so nice that they showed up with a gift so I took that to heart and and when I was in my early 20s I remember I bought a thousand mini budas because who doesn't want luck of a of a of a mini [Laughter] Buddha okay so a thousand mini buddas and you gave them all to one person right yeah yeah no I gave so I I spent I gave out those it was like the year of the Buddha I gave out all a thousand

29:57Buddhas that year [ __ ] hell yeah had a lot of meetings in in my early 20s I would just like meet with anyone yeah and people just like started talking about it it's definitely memorable yeah people people started talking about it and I like kind of became known as like the guy who showed up with gifts from that and and by the way I was giving gifts to like the founder of uber who I just like randomly met and all these crazy people that I shouldn't have been in those rooms but I was in those rooms and they would send me an email right after and be like by the way

30:29thanks I I'm I'm looking at the right now that's pretty cool so it works especially if you're trying to build your network and you're trying to create a lasting impression in people's minds it also puts you in a a humble position I would say like I don't know if this is even remotely the intention but it shows somehow some respect to the other person I feel I think so what do you do today like okay I am going to meet some people over the next few weeks and I want to bring them gifts but what what kind of things I'm always kind of struggling between like what's too expensive and

31:09desperate seeming and what's like too stupid like what what do you think I could bring it like price doesn't matter it's really just the thoughtfulness yeah you know I don't know if a thousand Buddhas would make sense today maybe they would but it's just thinking about you know know maybe today people are really stressed about the election let's say mhm um and it's generating anxiety so what is something that you can give to people that is the is the anti of that what is something small thoughtful that you can give Xanax yeah you know maybe you should just go to become a Pharma company does costex I don't I don't know

31:58okay I get your idea though so like a nice T yeah well the problem with te is that you're you're done right like I'm sure that there's people who still have these little budas on their desks teot teapot is a good one so it should be permanent like something that stays what about okay if I was meeting you I don't know if I'm going to be able to pull this off before my next meeting but if I was meeting you and I got I got you the play date this little cute yellow console from the guys at Panic would you think that's cute I would think that's really I would love that

32:37like that would make me so happy but that's not permanent I don't think a yellow a little yellow actually yeah it's pretty permanent I take it back it's pretty permanent I actually just annoyingly realized that that's a great gift for people right now and I don't know if I'm be a going to be able to get it on time [ __ ] I was going to get people these the little tp7 but they're really hard to buy would you like a gift yeah it's but it's really it's something we all we forget like I don't know it it's actually really good intangible thing to do I feel like it's something that not a

33:18lot of people do and I I think also there's something about coming across as I don't know how to put this when I meet okay just tell me if this makes sense the way I'm going to put it you I I often meet people who are a lot more successful than me and after a while you sort of become friends with them and I feel like what other people do that I that other people do wrong is that let let's say I'm become friends with someone who's like uh who's been running a company for 25 years super successful I'm years away from ever getting there and I may never

34:00get there and they clearly have all the connections I would want all of the things we talked about this canvas strategy idea and I'm here and eventually I become friends with them I think what a lot of people do wrong is they're like oh now I'm friend so now I'm just going to get all this person's contacts and I'm just going to call them whatever I feel like etc etc whereas I would always in my mind think okay so like this person is still being very gracious to give me their time even though we're friends Etc and so I think giving a gift and would would you give

34:31gifts every time you meet someone like or just the first time basically how many gifts am I going to get is one I'm trying to figure out the best time to give a gift is to give a gift when the person least expects it so when they're in the toilet kick down the door here you go here's a play date oh no Jay cream's here play it how did you get my address 1,000 buddas put their kid to bed I'm hanging off the ceiling with 1,000 budhas holding them in a box and shaking sweating what are you spraying at me why are you spraying egg juice at me yeah

35:13one of them Falls in their head and they're like you know like it's like a horror movie the camera kind of pans up and I'm there like strapped to the ceiling like what I mean by that is sorry on people's birthdays they often get gifts yeah and they're busy yes they're Pro they're are they more likely or less likely to remember a gift you give them on their on their birthday less likely exactly so you want to you want to give someone a gift when they're not expecting it so that could mean the first time you meet them but then also like at month 6 or

35:57month 18 or month 24 so it's not just about every time you meet them in person yeah yeah don't be like a bot it's not like a system you don't create like a system where it's like okay on the third week of every you know month I buy this thing and I create a script no like be a human being you know what I think a great book uh great I ruined it I think a great um gift what I give to people is this book I mean having a book that you gift to people um why I think this is a nice gift this one

36:35hell yeah Hornell hell yeah or no by dere ders it's one of my favorite books of all time by the way yeah I can't believe you're going into books even though no no no but this is this is one that I gift people I give it as a gift um so I bought I buy it in bulk off the website and then you can get like this hard cover version the one you get on Amazon sucks it's like a soft cover kind of like crappy looking one but you can get the nice hard cover editions from the website I buy like 20 of them and I

37:02give them as gifts to people when they come to my apartment I give it to them as a gift so that's kind of like something I do that's cool um so that's just an example of that's a really good one is always have gifts in your apartment or house yeah to give to people like no if anyone wants this when they come over to my place it's like a glasses cleaner but it's covered in other strange stains I wasn't trying to bring the book thing in all right wait let's do another okay let's let's go back to this uh hack hack list okay keep a learning list make learning your side

37:35hustle what do you think about that I mean I wrote it so what do you mean by what do you mean by like a learning list like courses you want to do books you want to read I have I use the things to-do list app oh you Ed things I think it was it's made in Germany I think somewhere it's made somewhere think it's Germany it's somewhere in Europe for sure I think it's Germany I'm just trying to get a claim to Fain here an American using a tech product that's made in Germany is like a big deal you know we don't tend to make much stuff over

38:13here yeah it's made in Germany okay yeah I I use this German product called thing yeah there we go that's right that's right cultured code GHA if you're listening to this episode you guys make a lovely product I think it's a really lovely product it's a lovely product I use it I have one of my tasks on it is learning list and every quarter I have three new things that I'm trying to learn oh okay I don't do that um it's basically every month I'm trying to learn a new thing and the thing I'm trying to learn sometimes it's about business but sometimes it's just like a personal

38:56thing so it could be well actually right now I'm I'm taking a bunch of Stanford online courses on finance oh interesting so I never went to Business School uh of course I can like read an income statement a balance sheet that sort of thing but you know there's I figured hey it would be great to be better at this so it's one of those things where if you don't put it in a list and and actually like have homework and put in your calendar you're never going to get around to it how do you decide what you want to learn is it just like following your interests or is it related to like

39:38business weaknesses you have or life weaknesses I think it's business weaknesses and and life's Curiosities so like right now I'm also like for this upcoming three months I'm also just trying to get better at Guitar so taking a guitar course and then if I pull up I'm also learning how to golf oh interesting yeah it's probably a good way to network with high net worth people as well is golfing it's also I live in Florida so you know it's a golfing place it's a golfing plays mhm what do you mean by chasing generational wealth is overrated and wealth is underrated this came to me uh a couple

40:23years ago we got offered $100 million blank check to build to basically scale out late checkout and build build out a bunch of new products faster acquire faster just take our model and just add steroids to it and we turned it down and the VC basically called me up like sweating bullets he goes he go he goes go this is a Blackberry he goes I don't understand this is like a Surefire way for you and your team to get generational wealth yeah he has a similar voice to you actually yeah similar voice very similar voice to me and I go I'm not I'm not chasing generational wealth like I don't

41:15need hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars in fact when I you know the people who I look up to who have that sort of wealth they they give away 99.9% of their wealth anyways to Charities what I'm about is I want to I I want to live a wealthy life I want to live a rich life I want to be able to do whatever it is I want but I don't need generational wealth I think that's it's something that what I don't like about chasing General generational wealth is it's infinite you're chasing an infinite goal I have I have zero interest in generational wealth either maybe I maybe

41:55it's just because I don't think I can actually make it maybe if I had a no but really I I also like I guess this die with zero concept where you use the money and when you die like I was thinking about it like my daughter doesn't need to have crap tons of money from me uh when she's older because I didn't have that and I I found it really fun to figure out how to make money I worked in bars I worked in restaurants then I started my own things then I you know like that that gave me sort of like something to do and sort of

42:32like a purpose um so yeah I I I would definitely agree with you how how would you define normal wealth though like how do you define that for yourself I'm currently working with like a financial adviser to figure out for me like what is it that I actually should earn I run like a creative thing and so it it's variable based on my vibes so like how do I how do you and me figure that kind of thing out that's so frustrating to the financial adviser they're like so what's your goal and and you go that's literally just based on my vibes he literally really nice guy Sebastian I um

43:10can definitely recommend him if you're in Germany uh reach out to me and I'll connect you he he asked me what my goal was and I was like first of all he was sitting in the AJ and smart office which looks like K like just looks like an art museum or some sort like a chaotic Art Museum and I'm like look around like do you think I have goals my goal is to keep making stuff that I want to do I want to just do stuff that I enjoy but yeah I don't have any goals at all I don't know what I want to do I mean financially yeah do

43:44you have like a number or like just keeps going up I don't have a number because people I know who have numbers are just they hit the number and then the number becomes 2X and then they hit the number and the number becomes 2X and they hit the number and becomes twox yeah the way I think about it is I want to be able to do what I want yes you don't want anyone to tell you what to do where to be yeah yeah and there's a lifestyle that I I want to have and that requires like a certain amount of money but that's kind of where I'm at all

44:18right next life that connects to that connects to number 20 which is craft a personal mission statement to guide your decisions first of all do you want to share your one and second of all how how do I do that well what's your personal mission statement I don't have one you don't have one even around like facilitator decom and my personal mission statement is I want to follow my interests and then make stuff that make interest make things that I find interesting with other people I don't like to make stuff just by myself and ideally other people like using those things I don't that's that I don't

45:03have a mission statement but if it would be something like that make make interesting stuff yeah that I find interesting it's very much about around making things I like to create stuff I like making things so where this came from was a lot of companies have mission statements most companies have mission statements and I realized that found ERS because they they care so much about making the business work they kind of lose sight of what what their goals are I have recently very much lost sight of my goals of which I've never defined but I can sense it yeah so that's my point on this life hack like it doesn't make

45:46differ how do doesn't make a difference what your mission is or what mine is it's just like have a mission but how what does one look like can you like tell me what that statement sounds like I literally don't know what you mean yeah so help me help me help you help me a personal mission statement could be something like it could be numbers like you can say I want to make a million dollars a year and I want my children to have the best possible life and I want to have a happy family and that's a personal mission statement you have you know could be you

46:27can put dollars in there it could be you can add personal of course into it family friends so you OB you don't want to share yours basically I don't want to share mine it's personal personal share it with us great okay guys if you like and comment share it with us Greg then in the next episode Greg will share his personal mission statement No but it's interesting a lot of um a lot of Americans say things like you know uh that's sort of like my purpose or my mission it's very rare to hear people outside of the US saying these sentences um and so yeah it's interesting for me

47:08just sort of trying to understand it and trying to see if that makes sense for me um I like the idea of having like so what I have is a Post-It in my kitchen which says 2024 do you want actually would can I go get it just to show you or is that an annoying thing for me to do right now go for it yeah all right just because it's so it's so like not a mission but it's like I I'll just I'll be back I'm not wearing any underwear pants so I'm just so at the end of 20123 I think it was the 29th of December my girlfriend

47:46and I did like a it's this Tim Ferris thing it's called the end of year review something like that and then we created our goals for next year based on how that works it's kind of embarrassing to show this because it's not like a public thing that I've ever showed but just to show you I think maybe my version of what we're talking about which is very much within the year so it looks like this um and so it's like three three questions for myself and then like one physical activity that I'm just going to lock into yeah it sounds like a weird thing um the questions are number one am

48:26I optimizing for state and that just means my state of mind like am I optimizing am I living my life in a way that's going to optimize for how I'm feeling because when I feel good and when I feel excited everything else works better uh really simple example of that is being very very cautious of things like alcohol uh not sleeping uh over caffeinating I I have my own like list of things that cause my state to turn back also social media um am I lowering noise and complexity so this is something where just thinking about like um you know you and I talked about this a couple of

49:09weeks ago as well I actually shut down my holding company after realizing that even though it makes sense from a financial perspective the noise and complexity even though it wouldn't for example be a problem for you for me that overwhelms me massively so am I lowering noise and complex and then the last one is kind of interesting am I being radically integral I don't I don't even know what that means yeah I know it's fine it's also a bit pretentious again I wasn't planning on showing this so it was only for me the idea there is that am I being first of all am I telling the truth like

49:47if someone asks me something like how am I feeling am I just telling them the answer to the question but also um am I basically living a way that that actually reflects what's happening in my head or am I just living in a way that's good for others to get what they want um being integral like having Integrity the idea is just like yeah am I being integral do I have integrity am I am I are the things I'm thinking similar are the things I'm thinking the same as the things I'm saying the same as the things I'm doing those three things lining up and uh then yoga I actually have done

50:31one hour of yoga per week since January um because I was having some back pains uh so that that also worked out well that's kind of more like an optimizing for State thing so yeah I don't have a mission statement but I I kind of break it down into like the three things I want to focus on for the year um but the mission statement think is pretty interesting do you have any is there any like thing I can watch or read about how to create a mission statement for myself yeah there's like uh there's like a few Frameworks for it I think it's there's one called the

51:03three question framework I'm so it's what is Mo what is most important to you what are your goals and what Val what values guide your actions so for example the integral piece that you talked about the the value that you have is integrity so then so you have pieces of it that's one framework there's also the purpose values goals framework so it's uh purpose what is your life about values what do you stand for and goals what do you want to achieve so I kind of like that one cuz I do think that you need to have some number what you know Associated like from a goal perspective because

51:51otherwise it just becomes like so lofty and then the last one uh that I've seen is the the five-step plan so it's uh what are your past successes identify themes from your past achievements what are your core values list list and prioritize your most important values identify contributions how you want to impact different areas of your life identify goals short and long-term goals and then it's write mission and vision statements so you're basically synthesizing all the above stuff in concise statements love it I'm going to look at all of those after I have them open as tabs I have them tabbed out tabbed out okay one one more one last pack one last

52:35and then and then more or then end of episode no then we could then three to four books okay I just want to talk quickly about the Instagram close friends one just because it's on my mind yeah say the Instagram close friends one I don't see it here did I not put that on the list oh yeah being on someone's IG close friends doesn't mean you're close friends so I don't know if this is just me but recently I met like a couple people out in the world and they just like throw me on close friends yeah it's like oh really Homie we just met I don't use I haven't used

53:13that feature in quite a while so I can't say much to this thing so so you so you telling the public just to not add you to close friends I'm saying that if someone just if someone adds you to close friends it doesn't mean they're your close friends and it you know if you want to get deeper it's it's like you only have a couple close friends in real life um I think that's also interesting because what you could do is if someone asks uh adds you to the close friends thing and then you see that they're doing something like a wedding or a family party and you haven't been invited you

53:44could get really irritated with them like oh thanks for the invite thought I was a close friend yeah I thought I was a very close friend and I didn't get put on your will interest so yeah okay fair enough that's a good one uh okay let me can I choose one more just to end on one that I like um okay avoid angry people they suck the good energy out of the room it's it sounds like really obvious and I would say not just angry or maybe you I don't know if you agree with this but I would say you also generally want to avoid people who are super cynical

54:29super pissed about everything it's like you meet someone and they're like oh did you hear about this stupid thing this stupid politician did this country's [ __ ] and you're like oh man I was having a good day and now I have to listen to this stuff um when when you say angry people are you saying someone who's just got a generally negative vibe or someone who's actually angry so in my mind I wasn't going to use this word on Twitter cuz it wouldn't hit the same but I think of them as kagin kinist the the people people who are not gonna hand out candy at

55:10Halloween because like they hate they hate the kids or the kids listen to loud rock music or whatever it is you know what I mean like also the people that just are rooting for you to lose they're also the people that if you come to them let me tell let me see if I can get this down to the perfect crystallization if if this is exactly what it is for you you're really excited about something you're really excited about a new thing let's say you got this and you're super excited and you show it to your friend and they're like H I heard teenage engineering are actually a

55:43[ __ ] company ohh that's like a waste of money that's crap like no matter what you do they like see that you're excited and they're like let me just take the pin out of that excit let me bring you down a few pegs just to make sure you're not too excited and too happy about stuff a lot of people hate this podcast for that reason actually because it's like positive vibes there's a group of people who love this podcast thank you for listening but there's I I noticed on Twitter there there's another group of people who are like oh the startup ideas podcast ideas that's nothing execution that's

56:23everything and like they hate on idea people and they don't realize that this is like a positive fun creative way to get people's juices flowing like that's what this is and those people that are just anti this podcast to me are like kudin and I think that when you're building a startup you want to you you can't have kudin in your life because it'll it's so hard as it is this is you know you've probably being given this advice or you've read it before that to succeed you need to be surrounded by people I I've heard this before and I took I unfortunately took the wrong lesson from it um when I was

57:08growing AJ and smart in the beginning one of my mentors was like you need to be surrounded by people who who will question everything who are like the devil's Advocates who are like the Ying to your yang and I was like oh yeah you're right you got to have you got to have those people around you um and what I realized is that maybe you want to have those types of people around you when you've already massively nailed it and you need to have let's say you're running Facebook you maybe need to have people around you who are like oh let's hold the brakes let's make sure this

57:40decision doesn't have like crazy consequences down the road but generally you're mostly you mostly don't want to be surrounded by people who are questioning everything and being the devil Devil's Advocates and telling you all the ways things can go wrong when your business is just starting out you're still under 20 million you want to be surrounded by people who are enthusiastic Advocates and who are excited about what you're doing and I think there was a time at AJ and smart where I really brought a lot of people up to the top of the business who kind of opposed everything I did because I thought that that's what you're supposed

58:14to do and so it's like and and in the end what happens is the founder or the person running the company just loses Steam and gets less excited and the whole thing just kind of falls apart and so yeah I think as long as you're especially when you're like the company relies on your energy and you being excited and you being positive kagin are the ultimate like Kryptonite for a Founder The problem is they are everywhere and the other thing the best quote I've ever read on this is pessimists will always be right but optimists will always get wealthy something like that something around those uh around that's what it was you

58:53don't have that's what it was yeah that right and I think that's that's such an amazing sentence to have in mind if you're building a business or if you're running a podcast or if I'm even as a guest on this podcast I'm going to get kerin in the comments telling me that I ramble too much or that I look stupid or that whatever [ __ ] y'all you know I need the positive energy to even keep going you're not on this podcast you're not out here running the startup ideas podcast like Greg is and putting all the effort into it you're just sitting around complaining online and I think

59:27that energy isn't you're 100% right like that energy is not what you want to have around you and then people will say to you Greg which you've probably gotten if you would do that as a post on its own on Twitter people would say to you oh yeah sure just surround surround yourself with people who just like you know Brown NOS you all day or whatever and that's not the point the point is you're not at the point yet where you need people to pick things apart you're not at the point yet you still momentum is still important to you and so enthusiasm and being enthusiastic being

59:59excited is super important oh [ __ ] I just that's how excited you were I got I got too excited I got too excited you know it's the enthusiasm and excitement of a founder of a small business or or a startup is so unbelievably important like it's not it's one of the things that brings down startups and and small businesses most often is the founders just giving up and burning out that's it it's that and running out of cash yeah but they run out of cash also because they just run out of energy for it often true or they ALS you know something bad happens open AI changes

1:00:48their you know their price don't be a Comm don't be a kudon dude don't question anything I say no right I think this is uh RAM sham who was on the board of Google OG GE he's wrong OG Silicon Valley guy he was on uh the board of a company I was at a few companies ago that I was helping run and he was he's the one who told me he was like there's two ways that a company dies either the team gives up or the company runs out of cash yeah and I think number one the team team gives up usually means the leader leaders give up um and just run

1:01:34out of energy and run out of steam and just can't be bothered with the like you see that often with content creators as well like when they get bullied offline or something it's just a matter of whether they are going to stick around or not and it's it's really often like that with especially small businesses when AJ and smart when this business that I run when it's doing its best is when I'm excited and enthusiastic and then I can make my team excited and enthusiastic because I'm the cheerleader at the company but when I give myself like a you know if I surround myself with people who are just telling me

1:02:09everything's wrong and everything sucks then I also can't cheerlead myself or my team I think it's huge one if you're listening to this and you want to work with a Founder like ja cream you J ice cream J ice cream you uh you you don't want to be a kerogen like you want to be positive you can you can give constructive criticism but in a positive way not in like a passive aggressive kerogenous way absolutely I think that's really a really hard line to to manage like yeah I guess if you I guess some people get mixed up with like they read stuff online about um you know

1:02:54somehow they read stuff online about being more combative and saying what you mean and all of this kind of stuff but they're not thinking about the fact that a huge amount of things in the world work just because people are excited about doing them and people are motivated to do them and yeah I I have that problem when I'm also talking to my team and giving my team feedback and and Laura Laura who I run AJ and smart with she's told me I do this where my team will present something to me and I'm like I don't like this I don't like this and don't like this and then she's like

1:03:27yeah but like then they're not excited to do it and I'm like yeah but but I don't like this and I don't like this and I don't like this so it's easy also to fall into it even if you know how it feels from the outside you know even if you don't like it it's easier for you to do it too and that that also um mixes well with your comment about like be nice on the internet uh I think like you said you how many you probably meet a lot of people in real life that you talk to on the internet right and so you Pro if you if you want to be

1:03:58a business person you probably don't want to be [ __ ] all over people on the internet unless you like I guess Elon can do it because he's already nailed and finished the business game but I think like it's I can't imagine you going around trolling people on on their content and on the internet well it's just not my vibe it's like going back to like personal mission statement like that's not my Mo all right let's get to books I know you got some books that matter to you these are the books I I just want to I just have a pile of books next to me

1:04:32and these are the books where I feel like if you're either you're struggling with your business or you're working at a company and you want to start your own business or you just want to get like a good download of good business stuff into your brain um I just have a couple of books here and I think you've probably read a lot of them Greg and I'm going to start with the most cliche most obvious one but often people have what I've noticed with entrepreneurs people have not read it because they think it's like not cool anymore to read this book and it's like it's played out and it's

1:05:05out of date can you guess what it is actually uh no I can't okay it's 4our work this is the book I was working in a company here in Berlin um full-time employee I picked up this book it was at my aunt's house or my or my parents place I don't know my mom reads A lot of these types of books as well and I looked at it and I was like this looks like Tony Robin it looks kind of like I don't know it looks cheesy looks it's not I think this looks cheesy and not cool and like not a Vibe anyway picked it up that's a theme of a lot of books

1:05:42actually in my life where I think they're going to suck and then I read them I picked this book up and it changed my brain completely uh within probably four or five days of reading it I already decided I'm going to quit my job um and start my own business I think it's one of the best books that just like lays out how to how to make money um by selling things and how to do it in a way that just doesn't burn you to the ground talks it like teaches you the absolute basics of business delegation um and there's just a lot of Concepts in

1:06:15here that i' never heard of in my life um and yeah it's kind of the passive income Bible it's like the digital Nomad Bible whatever it is it's the first book that I read on that topic and still holds up really well today so that's the 4-Hour Work week I think it's amazing and I think every entrepreneur in the world should read that book so it's shocking that the 4-Hour Work Week still holds up it's so good the still today I still remember the framework for the 4-Hour Work week it's basically some of the biggest you know business books all are based around like one framework and

1:06:58in the 4-Hour Work week it's the deal framework defin definition elimination Automation and Liberation uh so definition you know just I just sort of Googled it uh to remind myself defines the new rules for work and lifestyle design elimination focuses on eliminating unnecessary tasks and time wasters automation explains how to automate income and tasks by the way couldn't be more relevant today in an AI world and Liberation focuses on achieving mobility and freedom so I mean the Frameworks make sense and are are still relevant of course some of this stuff is not going to be as like an o oh oh my God moment like I

1:07:41remember reading the 4H Hour Work Week in 200 like six or whatever yeah 2005 2006 and hearing that like you can hire people vas in like different countries I was like I can't believe you can do this now everyone knows you can do that or or at Le people listening to this pod though you can do it I also love things like the the little lifestyle things in there like the mini retirements like there was just so many things in there that completely broke my brain and it's I was so lucky it's the first business book I ever read like was the four-hour Work Week by Tim Ferris and it's it's a was a

1:08:18completely mind-blowing experience and obviously his follow-ups like tools of Titans tribes of tribe of mentors also great but this really feels to me like also love that this book you know goes into practicalities like running Google ads to a landing page and testing the copy it's a super practical book as well it was the first time I also even learned about things like this what what's your next book so cool all right I'm just there's no they're not in any order um I'm just kind of looking the next book I I think I probably read it might have been the next book I read because Tim Ferris connected me then in

1:08:56his world to this book was anything you want by Derek cers uh and it's uh 40 lessons for a new kind of entrepreneur and this book really teaches me taught me about like that you just do not have to run a business the way other people are running businesses you can really just make your own you can make your own really specific brand of business this guy Derek cers again you know his other book I got to be honest I just Googled Derek cers I I've I didn't know who he was I'm very surprised about that I think this this is one of my favorite books of all time who Derrick's why is

1:09:33Derek is interesting he created a company called CD Baby which he sold for either 30 million so he created like a you know an online digital product uh sold it for many many many million and then he just went off and disappeared and decided to not do that anymore um and he's just living a really fun sounding life and so it's inspirational he's he's like a he's a creative I guess it connects with me he's like myp Tom that's the Myspace Tom effect yes exactly so he didn't get caught up in the money Mak generational wealth he didn't he didn't chase the general uh generational wealth Okay cool

1:10:18so he can teach you things and he doesn't care about like it he doesn't need any money anymore but he's teaching because he wants to teach teach and I think that's really interesting next one double your profits another old school looking book by Bob Fifer don't know if you know this one it's really really good um so this book is 78 ways to cut costs increase sales and dramatically improve your bottom line This is a book I read two days ago again and I read it almost like every quarter it's just like a good uh it's just a good reminder of little tactics and you can open up a

1:10:54page and there'll be a tactic in there um I think one of my favorite things is this chapter it's also one of the most highlighted ones chapter 10 step 10 and it's maximizing customer satisfaction leads to bankruptcy um and he talks about this idea of when you're creating a product and creating differentiation make sure that you only provide the elements of differentiation that the customer is willing to pay for and not those that the customer is not willing to pay for it sounds stupid but sometimes we'll make stuff at AJ and smart where like 20% of it is stuff nobody gives a [ __ ] about nobody uses but it costs us a lot

1:11:36of money to make it and we're making it because one or two people said they wanted it and I think remembering things like this is very important another book I'd actually like to put on the list which is behind me well I'm not going to get up it's rework by Jason Fred and David heiner Hansen that was probably this I think that was the second Business book I ever read and that definitely defined a lot of how I think about building products so rework Jason freed get them on your podcast guys if you want to get Jason freed on this podcast can you like go on to X and tell

1:12:07him did you see come on to Greg's podcast I saw that he replied to you yeah so yeah I uh I'm trying to get him on trying to get him on yeah he's great he's great but let me just I'll give you the best book I've ever Quicks uh Jason Freed's story just because I think it might it's interesting to you you'll find it interesting because you're like always like Greg how do you like meet everyone so I tweeted out I did I did a tweet about bootstrap businesses and then by the way we'll get to one last book recommendation after I tell this quick side tangent story so I tweeted

1:12:45out uh just about you know bootstrap startups and why I think they're great and and how I've been enjoying building them and Jason freed replied doesn't follow me but he replied I responded instantly I was on desktop instantly I replied and I was like you should come on the Pod and then he was like email me so I emailed him and here's what happened pull it up subject line actually here I'm just going to share my screen and the reason I'm sharing this is cu I think people might find this interesting in terms of like getting people like busy people well-known people uh and working with them in some

1:13:32capacity so I go hey Jason big fan so I keep I keep it really short I have a podcast that gets 250,000 downloads a month not an interview podcast just a pod where I bring in three to four half where the guest brings three to four Half Baked ideas and we jam on it if this is something of Interest I can work around your schedule just tell me when works basically and then I I include P gets include Alexis Ohanian SAR Andrew Wilkinson Jonathan Jonathan jream I actually and then I take a screenshot I know he's a busy guy so I took a screenshot of the

1:14:05Tweet to remind him who I am that's good that's very good yeah yeah I love that I think that's great because you're being humble and not assuming he remembers this interaction saving a time then he responds right away yeah sounds fun format sounds really interesting let me watch a recent episode today to make sure I can bring something worthwhile sound good Jason I could have easily been like absolutely sounds good but what you do you gotta That's Not My Vibe that's not your Vibe you're too good you're gonna you're gonna suggest a specific thing watch great a few options for different types of recent episodes Jonathan

1:14:50Courtney yep Kevin Rose big fun ideas I include the YouTube and the Spotify because I don't know what he's going to prefer Cody Schneider DJ Scrappy DJ Scrappy ideas and and Jay scream he's a friend so more of a jam haven't heard back yet but I'm I'm optimistic yeah Jason's um not uh opposed to receiving reminders well no no one's opposed to receiving reminders by the way no but as in it doesn't see yeah he he wouldn't like being bugged yeah really cool yeah he's Jason is a huge I think Jason freed cable Sasser Tim Ferris Derek cers are probably like my your Mount Rushmore my

1:15:44M what's the German version my my ex Tower um I think it's great to I mean yeah anyway books are like one last give us one last one one last recommendation before we head on okay I'll give you a double whammy I'll give you a double whammy the two best marketing books you can read are expert secrets and traffic Secrets expert Secrets teaches you how to talk about what you do and how to turn like a skill into something you can sell and traffic Secrets tells you how to get leads and actually these books absolutely I mean uh traffic absolutely 100 % um yeah like I I have I

1:16:29think almost every page of this book is highlighted um it's crazy it's it's all about list building it's all the stuff that's still super relevant today um these books are Beyond relevant like they're they're the best marketing books you can read and I think what makes them also great is that nobody I've said this before people don't people in our world don't like Russell Brunson because he's cheesy um but he's also just very smart and a very good writer and he's not trying to be clever you know what I mean he's not trying to be deep or clever he's just like here's how you do exactly this with

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1:17:54it so much click it again when you click it again it's actually going to unlike unlike it but then I want you to like it again so it's like three times you like it so much even though it's only going to register once or click it really hard because we yeah just click it really hard all right I want to see those injuries could you guys also let us know what you think about my hair like did you prefer it longer I I like it longer personally it's like more it's more C you prer it longer I don't I don't want to be my personality already now you know you

1:18:29know what the issue with your hair is is it's it's not short and it's not long it's medium it's it's mid it's midlength do you agree um and for anyone I I kind of like it I like the It doesn't go in my mouth I didn't like that the like when I was eating with my when my hair always like to hear it would go in my mouth L and this is going to sound really you've changed you used to like like the hair in your mouth I used to like Harry M this is another thing and this sounds really stupid and I don't care about your audience

1:19:01complaining about me rambling but when my hair was longer I felt more chill as in I felt like I felt like I couldn't not be chill like you know what I mean it's like wearing baggy clothes and having long hair makes you feel different I don't know how to describe it I needed a haircut because I felt like I wanted to go into a new phase where I was a big bit more like switched on and a bit more I I I can't describe it you ever see the Roy ten bombs yeah a very long time ago so I'm not sure remember Richie tab bomb he he

1:19:38has like really the tennis player has like really long hair and then he like shaves his head yeah I kind of remember it anyways that was your but it makes you feel different seriously it makes you it makes you feel like when my hair is long I'm kind of people assume first of all that I'm super not that I'm super like I'm not that I mean I'm not chilled out in the way that many people would think with my hair me dude you run you run a successful business you you're busy I'm busy yeah I'm busy you wouldn't think it with the the hair so anyway guys I'm I

1:20:18am being 100% serious about the comments um on the hair thing so cool well I'm glad we ended on that note it's been real thanks for coming on I appreciate it this is this is the longest we've ever chatted I don't know if anyone made it to the deep end but if you did here's you know thank you for listening and uh hopefully uh well you're traveling a bit so you won't be on the Pod for a few weeks but you you'll come back soon we'll we'll be back we'll be back very soon all right we'll be back thanks everyone talk talk to you later boss

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