Grok Made Me $10K In 14 Days: How To Build A One-Person Business With Grok Bot (3 Step Framework)

0:00Everything you can do on your computer, Grokbot can do. It's so simple, easy to use, easy to get into. Whatever you want to create, whatever you want to build, nothing's gatekept anymore. I've never in my life felt so empowered by a piece of technology. What are some of the tasks that are being done for you with these Grokbot

0:21agents? When you're a content creator and you're trying to do business, you got to respond to emails. I completely automated all of that with Cindy, my revenue bot. She legitimately has closed me five figures of deals over the last couple weeks. She's closed a $10,000 sponsorship deal. And that's the amazing thing about Grokbot is it just figures

0:40it out. Someone has a fresh account with Grokbot. What's the first things that you're doing to get started in the right way? You think of two to three areas of your life you want to save time on. You want to automate, you want to get more done on. Now, I think the mistake most people make at this point It's crazy because I was the kid on the 40-minute bus ride to school in London dreaming about sitting across from people like this and the guests that we have every week on the show. And I'm so deeply aware the thing that made that dream possible was you guys. It was

1:12every single one of you that tunes in, comments, and likes, and sends me DMs about the show. Can you please hit that subscribe button? It helps us scale the guests and make this an even better show for you. Thank you. Let's get into it. You said Grokbot is the best AI agent that I've ever used, which is why I

1:30recommend it. The issue is that most people have no idea what to do with it. If someone has clicked on this video with this desire to start a business or save time or just be more productive using AI, what's going to be the value to them of learning about Grokbot number one and then listening to this conversation

1:55until the end? Yeah, I'd say three things. Get significantly more done, automate all the things you hate doing, and have way more time for the things you love doing. I'd say those are the three biggest things I got out of using Grokbot. Yeah. You know what, because and it's one of the reasons why I wanted to do the show, and I said this to you even when we spoke earlier, you're so prolific. Like a new AI tool comes out, and I feel like you're the first person that's like testing it, implementing it in your life and in your

2:25business, and then like a video is out. And so, can you just give us like a quick peek behind the scenes? What has been the impact of using Grokbot just in your day-to-day? Like what has been the value to you? Yeah, it's it's been absolutely incredible. I I live a very blessed life where I get to live my dream. My entire day is just using technology, which has

2:48been my dream since a little kid. Grokbot, out of all the AI agents that came out, Open Claw, Hermes, everything, has been the most helpful. I think it is the AI agent that has been built most for usability. You know, it's it's interesting. It can't There's nothing it can do that other agents can't do. Everything Grokbot can do, Hermes agent can do, Open Claw, Codex, Claude Code,

3:12all of them can do it. But Grokbot decided to be extremely opinionated about everything. All the workflows being very opinionated, the way it works is very opinionated, which just makes everything easier. You don't have to think about configuration, you don't have to think about which models to use, this, that. And because it's so simple, easy to use, easy to get into, I'm just able to get way more done. I'm able to automate the things I hate doing, responding to emails, doing business deals,

3:42negotiating. I hate all those things. It's able to do that for me. It helps get rid of the things I hate, and help me do way more of the things I love, which I think really is like the the dream of AI that I don't think a lot of people are really taking advantage of. I think they're using it more as kind of glorified search engines, which hopefully by the end of this video, uh they'll be using the right way and getting way more out of

4:05it. Yeah. That's good. And and and I feel like there's someone that's listening at that's listening at home that's like that exactly describes how I'm using AI right now. It's like a glorified Google search. And you know what? Cuz you even just listed off some things, but I want to I wanted to build on it. Because you're and I said this right in the beginning, that you're prolific both in terms of how you do content, like you just put a lot out. And then also just in terms of the businesses. And just so if I list it off, you built Creator Buddy, which is a Twitter algorithm tool that's done over

4:36500,000 in revenue. Mhm. You have the Vibe Coding Academy, which is your community that's on track to do over a million this year. You just started a new business called Henry. You mentioned some of the other stuff like building video games and all of these things. You're posting daily. You put out content to hundreds of thousands of

4:53followers across Twitter, YouTube. Can you just describe and give the context and the understanding to people? You do this mainly as like a one It seems like you're like a one-person operation. Is that case? And then how is that even possible? And where are you using AI in that process? Like how big of a contributor is AI in allowing you to do

5:20what you do? Yeah, so I'm a total one-man business. I have zero employees. I do basically everything uh by myself. Uh one thing I've learned over the last several years is I absolutely hate managing people. I like working by myself. I'm going to figure out how to use this technology to help me work better by myself and get

5:41more done. Now, how I'm able to do all of that, I'd say two pieces. One is using AI and two is utilizing leverage. So, AI I have put into every single process I do. Grok Bot's basically the operating system behind most of what I do. We'll be going through that today, how I automate basically every area of my life and all

6:03the things I hate doing. And then two is leverage. I have basically figured out ways where I do things once and it helps everything I'm doing grow. So, for instance, like you you you mentioned earlier how I you know, seem to have content out the moment things drop. Well, I use these tools that drop to help build my businesses and then the sawdust from all of that is my content, right? So, Grok Bot comes out. I implement it into my business. I start building things with it and then I create videos and tweets on how I did that, right? So, everything I'm doing is contributing to my business growing, to

6:42my products being built, to everything getting automated more and then to the content I'm creating. It all kind of works together. So, it's very high leverage the way my business There's very few things I do that's kind of one-off and doesn't help every other area of my business grow. And AI just makes it all happen much, much quicker. Yeah, I want to talk about Grok Bot specifically because similar to you, I spend time on like LinkedIn and Twitter and YouTube and especially on Twitter or X, whenever one of these new AI tools comes out or like a new update, there's a lot of excitement. You're seeing people retweet

7:21and post about it and give their take on it. It felt slightly different when it came to Grok Bot, like the level of excitement and then the people making videos about it, like people that are really experts in the space being excited about it. I saw a quote from Lenny who does Lenny's newsletter and he said that one of the most it's one of the most exciting AI AI products that he's

7:46seen for months and months. And so, I'm curious for you to just do two things for us, which is first of all, why is there so much excitement? Like as someone who's so present in the conversation and a lot of the time starting the conversation, why are people so excited about Grok Bot? And then for you personally, what was that first like light bulb moment, that kind of like spark moment for you in using Grok Bot when you were like, "Oh, this is this is different. This is different from other tools and other

8:19releases that I've seen." Yeah, I I think it's caught on for a few different reasons. Um one is kind of what I touched on before, which is I think it's truly the first AI agent that's come out that that works in a truly opinionated way. Right? And I think and I'm trying to build products

8:39that kind of solve this challenge. But I actually think one of the biggest weaknesses of human beings is when you give a human being a blank canvas, a lot of the times they freeze. They don't know what to do with it. And so I've been saying for a long time, we need to start making AI tools that are more opinionated. That when you go into it, it's not this blank canvas, choose your model, choose your tools,

9:05choose this, choose what you want to do. Instead it goes, "Hey, here's what we're going to do. Provide me a little context so I can help you do it better." And then it goes and it starts doing things. And Grok Bot I think was the best example of this yet, where it's very opinionated. You don't choose models. Models are already selected. Right? It

9:24doesn't do anything on your computer. You don't have to set up things. Each agent has its own computer, has its own virtual computer. So when you give it work, it's not like, "Oh, how should I do it? Should I do it on this? Should I do it on that? It just opens its own

9:37computer and does things. It's agent-to-agent, so I'd encourage you to set up an agent for every task in your life rather than one agent that does everything. And so, it was these opinionated kind of design choices that I think made it click for people. Right? It took away a lot of options that you have to decide on with every AI tool you use, a lot of config, and it just said, "Hey, here's your here's what we're going to do. Here's how we're

10:05going to work. Now, let's get to work." And I think that clicked for a lot of people. I think the simplicity clicked for a lot of people. Having the amazing design choices of the agents, every agent's named. It just It feels like the type of product you just want to share with people and show other people. Yeah. You said it has the best onboarding experience that you've seen so far. Like, it's actually it's the tool that you typically would recommend to someone that's starting out using agents for the first time because it's so easy and they make it easy to get onboarded. So, so we're going to see it

10:35in a few moments. But just based off what you're saying and even just taking into account your own story, there's always been like this ideal in when it comes to entrepreneurship and building businesses and people's careers, where like the everyday person could build like a one-person business or be like an entrepreneur. And through using technology like AI, I think it really came to the fore when AI started becoming more prevalent. You could have like these one-person solopreneur businesses that were like multi-million-dollar companies. Just like someone who's skilled at something

11:11and then AI supporting. In your mind and just from your purview, how close are we to that reality? And does tools like Grokbot take us there? Like, do we still have some way to go? I'm just I'm curious just to hear your perspective. I think Grokbot truly unlocks for the first time the ability for the solopreneur one-person billion-dollar

11:38business. And the reason why I think that's possible is I think for the first time an agent can do quite literally everything a human being can do on a computer. Right? And if I share my screen, I kind of show you what I'm talking about here. Everything you can do on your computer, Grokbot can

12:02do. It has their own built-in computer. Every agent So, as you can see here, I have many, many agents set up to do many, many different types of roles and responsibilities. I have developers for different projects, project managers. I have community uh managers. I have someone in charge of revenue. I have someone in charge of my

12:19email, research. Each one of these has their own computer. Each can work 24/7 around the clock. Each can do anything a human being can do. Right? And so, for the first time, I'm able to offload and automate quite literally anything I want. And so, I think this is the golden age of entrepreneurship. Like, we have this fear going around, "Oh, AI is going to

12:46take jobs. AI is going to take jobs." First of all, that's not true. There's no data to back that up. But, let's just pretend that's true for a second that AI is going to take jobs. Well, at the same time, AI allows anyone with the connection to the internet to build quite literally anything they want, start their own businesses. And I think Grokbot's truly the first agent that unlocks that ability. Like, you can see any of these agents that are kind of animated and spinning right now. They're doing work as we speak. They're just

13:15going, writing code, reviewing things. And so, I I really feel like for the first time, I have just infinite leverage cuz anything I can do on a computer, my bots can do for me. Yeah. Okay. You know, you know what, Alex? Cuz I'm so glad that you just pulled up your screen and then just showing people. And even that thing of like you have GrokBot agents that are working as you and I are having this conversation. It's just kind of crazy

13:39and like sci-fi almost to see. Can you start just high-level for people? Cuz I know that you have like a number of different agents within GrokBot. Can you just show people what's possible? Like what are some of the tasks that are being done for you with these GrokBot agents? And even more importantly, like what has the impact of

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15:48of the work for my team lives, I have information for every episode. I'm talking about stuff like the vision for the episode, stuff that I just won't cut in post-production, even how I'm thinking about title, thumbnail, all of that stuff. And I wanted to take that information for next Monday's episode and turn it into a beautiful slide deck that I could present to my team in our Monday morning meeting. And so what I did is that I opened up gamma five. I came into their brand new agent here. I clicked on the plus button over here to connect my notion. Then I just told the agent what I wanted it to build for me

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16:57new gamma, just go to that link in the description to get started with gamma today. Thank you to them for sponsoring this episode. Let's get back to the show. Yeah, many many things. So I can go through here. I have a lot of different teams. So again, kind of the the the judgment that Grok by team made was AI agents should be multi-agent. You should have multiple agent personas for everything you do in your life in your career. And so I have agents for this new project I'm working on, project shelf. I have agents working on my venture-backed startup, Henry

17:33Intelligent Machines. Each have their own role. I have a project manager, a developer, a researcher. They're always doing work. I have the most popular AI community on the internet, the Vibe Coding Academy. I have Dusty who's my chief community officer. Make sure people are engaged, see who's asking good questions, see who's not as engaged anymore, and help me keep the community active and running and everyone happy. I people on my content

18:00team. You know, for instance, one thing I absolutely hate have hated it my whole life, have hated it my whole career, I hate answering emails. I hate emails. I hate looking at my emails. I hate responding emails. Something about emails, just hate it. Right? But the issue is when you're a content creator and you're trying to do business, you got to respond to emails. You want sponsorships, you got to respond to emails. I completely automated all of that with Cindy, my revenue ops on my content team. Every day, she checks my email inbox, sees who's responding to me, see who is like looking for sponsorships, then she researches who

18:40sent the email, researches their domain, researches their LinkedIn, and sees how legitimate they are. As you know, you have one of the most popular podcasts in the world, you probably get a tremendous amount of spam email from like uh scam agencies trying to sell you fake sponsorships. Like it just it just happens when you're a content creator. Cindy filters all that out for me. She researches everyone, make sure they're legit, and as I'll show you in a little bit, she legitimately has closed me five figures of deals over the last couple of She's closed a $10,000 sponsorship deal a couple weeks ago which went really viral on X. She negotiates, responds to

19:18emails, she completely automated a task that I I absolutely despise doing and have sacrificed six figures of revenue over. Cindy figured it out for me. Yeah. I have researched uh a chief content officer who monitors my content strategy, lets me know what works, what doesn't. I have a tech team and they all are just constantly working. They have their own routines, they have their own schedule of when they do things and they just get work around the clock for me, which I just I've never in my life felt

19:51so empowered by a piece of technology. Okay, that is powerful. Okay, I've never in my life felt more empowered by a piece of technology. You know, I I just want to rewind for a second because Alex, if we look at the the data about like close to 60% of Americans have used ChatGPT. So, that's just like that's not even that they're regularly using it. That's just at one point in their lives they've used ChatGPT. The the numbers for even Claude, like Anthropic, like with Claude are even less than that. So, most people haven't even like there's a lot of people that haven't even used AI. I

20:29think the numbers of people that have used agents and are even familiar with what agents are is significantly less. And so, for the like everyday person who their experience of AI up to this point has been mainly using ChatGPT, probably like a glorified Google like you mentioned earlier. Maybe they've used Claude here and there. Can you almost take us back to first principles of like how is this and Grok bot and agents specifically fundamentally a different experience with different capabilities than the person that's using Claude or ChatGPT, basically just using its chat function. Like, can you describe that

21:18difference for people so it's real? This image always blows my mind. Just to add context to the question you just gave me. This is everyone in the world. So, each dot is 3.2 million people. The gray dots are people who have never used AI, just never touched AI, never used ChatGPT, nothing. Green is they used ChatGPT, they like they downloaded the app and used the free plan, asked a few questions. The yellow is people who pay

21:44for AI. And the red is anyone who's written like a single line of code with AI ever. One dot out of all of these dots. One speck. And so, if you use Grok Bot and you've had it build anything at all, you're in that one tiny red dot there. If you've even paid like a penny for AI, you're in one of these tiny dots right down here in the bottom right. So, barely anyone is using this technology at the moment, which is pretty amazing, which is just kind of a reminder for people who are into this stuff, how small the bubble we're actually in at the moment. Now, we can have a whole

22:23other conversation around investing and what this means around investing, but that's a different conversation. Um but your question is is around what's kind of difference between this and the people who just use chat regularly. The The difference is I think most people when they use AI, most people in those kind of green dots, they use AI as a way to kind of get information, which is good. It's the best way to get information ever. It's the best way to get information. Anytime

22:51I have a question, I just ask my AI. The difference though with the red dot, the one tiny dot in the bottom right, the 0.001% of the world, when you AI like the people in the red dot, it's actually taking action for you. Grok is built around taking action. And what I found the most amazing part about Grokbot is is its ability to just figure out how to do things. It just figures out how to do things. So, one thing here, I have my project manager Kelly working on my app

23:26right now. And as you can see here, and this is one of the most amazing parts about Grokbot, these lines right here, if you can see them, are Kelly messaging the other agents I have in my fleet. So, she's messaging other agents, having conversations back and forth. I never told Kelly to do that. I never told Kelly, "Hey, message Hank about this or

23:50read about that or whoever." Kelly just figured out, "Ah, I have this question. This thing is blocked." Right, you can actually see right here, this task I'm working on is blocked. I need to get verification. So, she starts messaging the other agents to figure out what she needs to get unblocked. I never said, "Hey, if you get stuck, talk to Hank." She just Look, done. The task is now done. The task she said was blocked here is now This is all happening in

24:19real time. Is now done and merge ready. That's amazing. That was done all automatically. It just figured it out. And that's the amazing thing about Grokbot. Is it just figures it out. It figures out how to do things. You don't need to handhold it, babysit it, anything like that. Grok is just incredible at just figuring it out. Uh and it really is amazing. You can see it's creating

24:45routines for itself to merge things. It's deleting routines of that it's already done. It just works and does things to push the ball forward. Yeah. You know, Alex, I'm so curious. What is your like, even in this scenario, what is your contribution? Like what is the thing that you what is it that you tell Grockbot that it then goes through like Kelly's going through all of this this whole chain where she's messaging Hank and she's checking something then she's messaging like another agent within your kind of AI team. Like where uh for you as the human, where do you fit in to this whole

25:21process? Yeah, uh so here's the thing is when you don't give AIs measurable goals they that's where you produce slop, right? Slop comes from Slop is not an AI issue. Slop is a human issue. When people say, "Oh, this is slop, that's slop." It's not the AI's fault, it's your fault if you're producing slop. The way you get good results, the way you get things out of it, the way you get AIs working to your benefit is when you give it measurable end goals it can measure against. And so to give a little context around here, I was having a conversation with Kelly when I woke up

26:08around let's see if I can find it here. Yeah, here we go. I woke up, I was talking to Kelly and I said, "Kelly, look at our vision doc. Every project I build has a vision doc, which is basically here's the end state I want. In a dream world where everything is perfect and I'm making billions of dollars, this is what the product looks like and this is what it does." Every

26:33single project I do has that. So if I'm ever stuck and I don't know what to do with my AI, I don't know how to move forward I go to my agent and I say, "Look at the vision doc. Look at where we are now. How do we get one step closer to the vision doc?" And then it comes up with all these

26:52steps. You can see it right here. 11 different steps. I basically say, "Okay, I like that. Go ahead and start doing it." And she starts working toward it. As long as your AI has a measurable end goal, something it can compare where it's at now against, it's going to produce good results and it's going to

27:10figure out how to accomplish that goal. The issue for a lot of people is is they give commands to their agents and there's no measurable end goal, and that's where you get slop. But as long as it's measurable, the LLM will figure out how to get there. And that's how you start getting way better results and start getting your agents to just figure it out, figure out how to do things cuz it'll constantly measure against that

27:31goal. Yeah. You know, this is funny, Alex, cuz where my mind goes, as you're like scrolling through and showing uh Kelly's process, like you hear it so often or you start to hear it so often, like they're like AI employees. And this is almost like an AI It's like you have an AI business, like an AI organization. And it's but it's very

27:53Yes. closely resembling what we see in the workplace, where you have like these different contributors contributing to one project with a project manager at the top of it who's kind of delegating out the tasks. And so, you know what? Cuz I'd love to have you show this next, Alex. You mentioned the the sponsorship side

28:13of things. And I'm thinking about that that solopreneur that's, you know, you always have like revenue on your mind as an entrepreneur. Um that $10,000 deal that was closed through using your Grok Bot. Can you just show that chain of like how that and give the context of how that even came about? Yeah, so I uh I started using Grok Bot. I quickly realized there's something different about this agent. I quickly realized it's like incredible at long horizon automation tasks. It's incredible with tools. It's incredible plugins, meaning it can connect to my Gmail and then do really complex multi-step tasks. It can read an email, do

29:01research, think of something to reply with, and then take action. It's spectacular at all those things. And so I thought, "Okay, what are things I absolutely hate automating that I can have it do?" I said, "Okay, I hate emails. I'm probably losing out on six figures of sponsorships a year because uh I don't read my business email inbox." And so I went to Kelly, my or not not Kelly, my uh sorry, I'm confusing all my employees here, Cindy,

29:28my revenue ops. And I said, "Connect to my business account, read my last thousand emails, research every single person who sent me an email, find the legit ones, and then negotiate. Here's my going rates." At the time, uh I I was selling deals for like $10,000 for a sponsorship. Give them my rates, then negotiate. See

29:53what you can do. Literally 15 minutes later, Cindy goes, "Oh, I found a deal. They seem legit. I researched them. Here's uh I responded. We'll wait to see their reply." Now, I'll show you kind of what my conversation Cindy looked like. But basically what she does here, I'll give you a little sneak peek, is every morning she checks my sponsorship inbox, looks at who's emailing me, sees what their address is, researches them, and gives me a recommended next step on how what she should what we should do

30:26with them. She then negotiates the deal. And then with the first one she did, the first one she chose, she closed the deal. She got the deal closed. So I went in at the end, and that's when I came in. I was like, "Okay, so what what do you want me to do for the sponsors? Like what what should the ad read be? Things like that. But she handled all the stuff I hate, which is I hate negotiating. I absolutely hate I always feel like I'm getting taken advantage of in

30:50negotiations. AI luckily they don't feel emotions, so they don't they can just go in and go clear-headed and use logic. Reading emails handled for me. And so, that was the process. Read my email inbox every morning, find the legit sponsorships that want to work with me, negotiate and close the deal. And Cindy's able to do it.

31:10Yeah. You know, we're we're going to go deeper in some of these and like how someone can actually build their own first set of agents on Grokbot. But before we do, the final thing cuz you've kind of showed your you showed Kelly like your chief of staff kind of project manager, you've showed uh Cindy who does like revenue ops, sponsorships, all of that

31:29stuff. Uh you had another uh agent who like manages your community. Could you just show like when you say you have it's like a community manager is making sure that everything's like active and running well there, what does that look like? Yeah, Dusty. What does that look like? Yeah, so Dusty handles a ton of things

31:50for me. Uh and you can actually see all of Dusty's routines on the right-hand side. Um so, here's an amazing thing again about Grokbot is they have their own computer. They can do anything a human being can do on your computer. So, you can automate like a human being using computers. So, I had like community

32:08managers before for the community. Eventually, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to have a Grokbot figure this out." And now, Dusty goes in, gets daily news from my other researching bots, posts news into my community every day on AI the moment it happens. Um checks my funnels. So, checks like, "Okay, who's coming in? Where are they coming from? What's working? What

32:33isn't?" Gets me reports on that. Answers uh messages. So, I didn't want my community managed by an AI in a way where like everyone interacting with you is an AI. I think that's bad. I think people go to communities for human connection. But, what I actually do is I have Dusty do sweeps, find who ask questions who were never responded to, and then alert me every day so I can go in and respond

33:00to the people who have no responses. Uh, I have him do things I don't remember do like record live calls. When live calls start, he goes in make sure record is hit. Um, gives me snapshots on my data every single Monday so I can see how the community is growing. Uh, and a lot of other things. One thing I love it does is I could have it go in and send automated responses to people, but again, I think people go to communities for human, uh, you know, relationships. But, it'll look at my answers, and if I left any details out of my answers, it'll reply to me and

33:33say, "Hey, by the way, here's some added detail on what Alex was trying to say." And so, it makes my responses and my engagement with the community stronger by adding details I might have forgotten that moment. So, Dusty handles everything. And Dusty doesn't need to use my account. Dusty has his own account. And so, there's amazing plugins in Grok Bot like Agent Mail for instance where your agents can quickly create their own email inbox, create accounts for themselves in anything you're using, invite themselves as team members, and do their own thing. Dusty has its own account in my community. And so, it's just another human being in the

34:10community just making sure everything moves nicely and making sure, uh, the community is engaged. Yeah. You know what? I want to make sure that I understand this clearly because Alex, this is what I'm hearing. It's not necessarily that Grok Bot is going out and like making you all of this money or like replacing you. It's basically, it sounds like it's like the ultimate multiplier where it's taking away tasks and it's multiplying the value of your time. So it's like giving you information, it's giving you access, capabilities, uh knowledge um so that the parts where you plug in, you can just do what you do. If you were going to

34:55estimate, I guess how much time even in a week you'd be being saved you're being saved using Grok bar. Just rough estimate. What would you say? I mean, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours. Right? I I've been a developer my entire career. I have a computer science degree. I've been building things my entire life. Never in a million years would I ever take on as many projects as I am right now. Never in a million years would I raise money for one project while also building out another full-scale project while also building out an entire video game while also managing like a community and writing content. Like

35:33these are all full-time 40-hour a week jobs, each one of these. And I just have them completely automated. So probably hundreds of hours a week. It is a dramatic impact if you can use it the right way. Okay, you know what? Cuz I cuz I'm getting excited now and I want to get into the the steps of how someone can start to use it and even build it in the similar way to what you've done. Because I think specifically for that person that maybe they've like had ambitions of always starting a business, like a solo business, but they just never have had enough time, like they're always kind of

36:08underwater. And so the idea that they could get time back and be able to like focus on the things that matter or they could just use the limited kind of resources that they have at their disposal, either it's just them or like a small team, to get more done is like very exciting. And so to begin, Alex, I had a like I was thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about like what are the different almost departments or like sections of a business that you would have, specifically as a solopreneur or like an entrepreneur with a small team. And so, I wanted to just list out a few of them,

36:46and you can kind of just give us your perspective if there's like certain use cases for GrokBot where you've seen it specifically strong at, like specifically suited to doing. So, for most companies or even just solopreneurs, you would have marketing and content as like one one category. You have sales and outreach. You have customer service. You have email and admin. You have fulfillment, specifically for like clients. You have

37:14coordination and management. Are there certain We kind of spoke about like even just the sponsorship side of things. I guess that's sales. Are there certain functions or like categories of functions that you've seen GrokBot do specifically well? And then on the other side of things, on the opposite end, are there certain functions that you've seen it not do

37:37very well? Yeah, I'd say anything logic based is go it's going to excel at. And what I mean by anything logic based, anything that there are clear right ways to do things. Right? So, coding, it is amazing at coding, building, writing code, answering emails, replying to emails, organizing your day. Those are all what it's best at. There are still things I believe that need

38:03human touch. GrokBot has not written a single tweet for me. It hasn't written a single full script on YouTube. It writes scripts for like ad reads. It writes outlines. It does research, but it's not writing that human level stuff, like the things I'll say on camera, the things I will tweet out. And so, those things like that's where you want to save for yourself. That's what you want to save for the kind of human touch side of things is like the content, the communication, things like I don't want it to automate replying as me and my community. But, anything logic-based, it's amazing. The project management, right? Looking at my vision doc, seeing

38:46what needs to be done and creating tasks around that to get as closer to the end goal in the apps I'm building. Writing the code the code to do that. Responding to emails, keeping me in the loop on things, watching my calendar, preparing me for meetings, reading my email 2 hours ago, seeing that you emailed me with the outline of what we're going to talk about, and then going through my entire Grokbot setup and pulling out my use cases and points so I'm prepared to talk to you. All those logic-based things, spectacular at, but there's still the human touch that's needed. I truly believe content will never be automated. But, the

39:26research, the outlines, all of that, Grokbot can save you 99% of your time on. Yeah. It It's It's funny that it actually played a part in the creation of this episode cuz you're right, I sent you an email this morning and it was like within the hour you had a you'd taken a look at it and you had a response. And so, it's funny to hear that I would part of the reason you were so fast was

39:50because Grokbot was using that process. And so, just ground zero, just starting out, right? I've used ChatGPT, I've used Claude. I hear Grokbot and I'm like, I don't even know where I go to access this. So, so can you just start from like step zero, like basic? How does someone even get to this window, like this view that you're seeing. And then how does like what's the first things that you're even doing? Like someone has a fresh account with GrokBot, like what's the first things that you're

40:28doing to get started in the right way? Yeah, so set up super simple. You search GrokBot, I'm sure it'll be the first link on Google. You just download it. When you open it up, uh it's by SpaceX AI, so it'll be on the SpaceX AI site. From there, when you open it up, you'll have one agent you're given. You're

40:45given one single agent. Now, I think the mistake most people make at this point is they'll go and they'll try to recreate this, right? They'll try to recreate like they'll create 400 agents. Oh, this is multi-agent, let me create my marketer, my content creator, this, that. Boom, they all of a sudden have 400 agents. I think that's a massive mistake. I don't think you should be starting big. I don't think you should be shooting for the moon the moment you open it up. You

41:10need to start small. You start with one agent. This agent is your chief of staff, right? This is the one that manages all the other ones, because what makes GrokBot so good is the agents can communicate with each other. They can talk to each other, they can create other agents by themselves. So, you start small, you make your chief of staff. You think of two to three areas of your life you want to save time on. You want to automate, you want to get more done on. Think of two to three

41:37areas of your life. You create a single bot for each. So, you go to your chief of staff, you say, "Hey, I want to automate I want to automate my content, my sponsorships, and my building apps. Help me build a bot for each, right? So, you can go and help me build a bot for

42:04each." And it's What your chief of staff will do Go ahead. It's still at that high level? Like that that was kind of how you began. It was you didn't even need to go into more detail than that. No, that's it. That's all you do and it starts you can start very very small here. It creates a bot for each and puts

42:23it in its own section, right? Then you just have one bot each. You don't need to make 20 bots for each of your teams. So maybe you're working on building apps. You go to your bot that's building your apps. Hey, can you build this? Can you do that? Can you do this? What you'll slowly and organically do over time is figure out more tasks you want to do in that area, right? So maybe

42:44you're building a video game. And you have your one bot for your video game that's like building out the gameplay. And you go, man, I wish while I was building this gameplay out there was we could also be designing things as we go, designing the levels, the weapons, whatever. Then that's when you go when you make your second bot on that team, the design bot, right? And then you go when you're building out then you're like, ah, you know, I I I the game's almost ready to go. I need to market it, but all my other bots are busy designing and developing. Then you build the marketer

43:16bot for the video game team. And what you do is you start small, you start with your one bot. You create one for your two to three key areas your life. And then as you come up with more tasks and responsibilities and things to do, you spin up one bot then another bot then another one and the team organically grows. And what happens is you start to build, and this might sound weird, but you start to build

43:41relationships with each one of the bots. You understand how they work, how they communicate, what they do, and it gets very easy to expand from there. If you make the mistake most people do, which is they come in and they just create 400 bots off the rip, you don't really know how each works, you don't know their responsibilities. A lot of them are completely useless and you kind of get overwhelmed and you stop using the tool. So my kind of big tip when it comes to using Rock Bot, start small, expand slowly, ask more questions than prompts you give. And what I mean by that is, you

44:18should be asking way more questions than commands you give the bot. Why would you do that? Because, and this is no offense to anyone, we've reached the point where the AI is smarter than us. The AI knows how to do more things than us. It knows its capabilities way more than we know its capabilities. And so, to get the most out of it, like if you had Albert Einstein sitting right next to you, you wouldn't be

44:45telling Albert Einstein what to do. You'd be asking him a ton ton of questions. You'd be saying, "Hey, what can we do here? What can we do there?" It's the same thing with these bots. You should be asking about, "Hey, what's the best way to approach this? Would you create another bot for this? What responsibilities should you have to automate this? Can you even automate this? What should we do here? Here's my end goal, how do we reach it?" And if you ask way more questions than prompts you give, it'll guide you a lot better on how to approach things, when to add more bots, when to add more routines,

45:15when to connect different tools. And so, that'd be my final major tip. And it's really this way with all AI tools at this point. Ask way more questions than commands you give. Yeah. You know, I thought this was so good even when you and I spoke um about a week ago. You spoke about reverse prompting. Um and I before you spoke about it, I'd actually never really heard it, even though I've spoken with so many different people in this space. And so, I just want to give it uh to anyone that's listening at home. Cuz this is exactly what you said. You said with reverse prompting,

45:47what you want to do is you tell it about yourself, talking about the AI. You tell it about yourself. And you ask it questions. Based on what you know about me, what should we do next? What can we automate? How do How do you get me closer to my goals? And because it's so smart, it uncovers unknown unknowns you

46:07never would have thought of. And so it sounds like even when you um and and you let me know if this is correct. You open Grok Bot and first off you get uh it already has an agent for you, which is Slate, your chief of staff. At that point, Alex, are you then giving and like when even when you were starting out, did you give Slate like a bunch of context on yourself? Like was there any sort of document or just context file or even like a just a voice dump, like brain dump

46:41that you did in? And then from there you're asking the questions. Like kind of talk about that process of how you're even kind of warming it up so that it can give you very specific responses that are valuable and customized to you. Yeah, the most powerful strategy in AI is the brain dump to reverse prompt. This is patented. I came up with this. This is the strategy the Alex Finch strategy I've been praising for years now. The brain dump to reverse prompt. What does that mean? Kind of as I said, AI is smarter than us. It's more it it

47:17knows its capabilities a lot better. It's the same thing as kind of the the blank canvas effect with human beings. Like you have the blank canvas, you don't really know what to do. The solution to that is the brain dump to reverse prompt. You give the and I do this a ton because every new AI tool is the first thing I do. You brain dump everything about yourself. Your goals, your ambitions, your career, your interests, everything you want to accomplish, everything you've done to this point. Give it as much context as

47:47humanly possible. Then once you've done that, you can reverse prompt. Based on what you know about me, how can you help me? How can you get me closer to my goals? How can you help me achieve my dreams? How can you help improve my career? How can you help me improve my personal life?" Then the AI, knowing its capabilities, can help you fill in the unknown unknowns. It can say, "Oh, we can do this, we can do that." The odds are you

48:12don't know everything this AI can do. It's pretty much at the level of superintelligence now, right? So now, by giving it as much context as humanly possible, and then reverse prompting, "Hey, what can you do for me with this?" you're able to kind of unlock all your blind spots, figure out what it's capable of, and get way more out of your AI. And so, I think that's the most powerful strategy when you open up a new AI tool, when you don't know what to do, you're sitting around like, "I don't know what to do with this AI this moment." Just tell it a bunch of things and say, "Okay, what should we do

48:47next?" And you will get And if you do that over and over and over and over and over again, it's like this almost like exploratory way of using AI. It's It's a lot different than saying, "Hey, do this for me, then do this for me, then do this for me." It's a lot more exploratory, where you are like, you don't know what's five steps ahead. You're going down this path, there's a lot of fog, you don't know what's five steps ahead of you, but you're just going step-by-step exploring what's around you. You get a lot more done, it's a lot more fun, it's a lot more interesting,

49:21and I just think it's a really enjoyable way to use AI. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think it's so good, and I think the the advice is valuable and underrated, especially coming from you. And the And the reason I say that is what I said earlier, that you're the person that I go to online, where it's like a new tool has come out, and I know within the space of a few hours, maybe like a day, you will have tested it for hours, have kind of come up with a perspective on it, and then sharing that very concisely in a video. And so, when it comes to

49:55getting like onboarded and getting valuable outputs from a new AI tool fast, you're like one of the best at it. And so, just to make it like super practical, cuz I'm such a fan of like the the brain dump, and at least for me personally, the way that I do it is I will go into the voice memos like app on

50:14my iPhone. And then, I would just like hit the record button. I'll just talk into it. And then, once you hit the little square, you know, to like stop the recording, you can then copy the transcript and just put it straight into the AI. And so, if we take that as kind of like the the step one of like you've shared the context, and then you've just shared three things like that you want automated or you want help with. You can even do the reverse prompting method with Grokbot to figure out what those

50:45three things are. From there, because I'm so curious about like the functionality and what your experience there has been, Alex, it sounds like and you correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of your interaction is happening with either Slate, which is the name that you have for your chief of staff, or Kelly, who's the project manager. And then, they are then talking to the agents, like the the individual like sub

51:15agents. Is that the case where like you only really are talking to like one or two agents yourself, or have you found yourself actually kind of going into these like almost sub departments and talking with Dusty and Hank? Um What what has your been your experience in that sense? Yeah, it's kind of it kind of was trendy advice to give when Grokbot came out, which was oh, just talk to your chief of staff. That's it. Just talk to your one main bot, and then it will go and kind

51:45of delegate downwards. I actually found I don't like that and I don't do that at all. I actually go directly to whatever agents I need to talk to and that's for multiple reasons. One, the beauty of the multi-agent setup is each agent has their own very concise context. Right, Hank who's my developer for Henry Intelligent Machines all his context is around this just one sliver of a project of what he's working

52:15on. And if I go to Slate and I say, "Hey, build this out in Henry." It needs to think about the context every other agent has then pass it down and they think about the context of all the agents under it then they pass it down and that burns a tremendous amount of tokens. So, I find you save a lot of tokens just by going direct to that agent. It also helps you just kind of understand better what the context each agent has and just a lot more efficient, faster and saves

52:44you a lot of tokens. I also I just have fun going direct to the individual agents. I have fun going direct to the one developer who's working on the job. Like it just helps you learn how the entire system works. It helps you get things done a lot faster. Like if everything had to be passed down, you're just waiting a lot longer for Slate to go to Kelly then Kelly go to Hank and like figure out the context all the way and then messages

53:11might be lost in translation as it goes. And so, I go if I need something built in Henry, I go straight to Hank and I say, "Hey, we need to build this out." He'll then go and he'll communicate with the project manager and make sure everyone's aligned and on the same page, but I just like going directly to who's working on it and getting it done cuz you'll save tokens, it'll get done faster and you'll kind of learn how

53:33everyone works. Yeah. You know what's funny cuz it's like where my mind went even before you gave the the example is if you were the CEO of a company, right? And you walk into the office, like I'm I'm talking a physical office, right? Like the way that we have done things as humans for years and years and years. And you went in and you had a question about like the marketing. Like what what it How are we going to do marketing for

53:59the next quarter? You wouldn't go and like talk to your chief of staff who would then go and talk to the marketing person. Like you wouldn't do that chain of actions. You would just go straight to marketing. And it kind of feels like a very similar mindset here where it's like go to the agent that is responsible for the thing that you want to know about and you'll get the best responses there. I mean, it's like it's the reason why these are all set up like a human organization with project managers and CEOs and team leaders. AI and LLMs were trained on human data. They were trained on how

54:37humans work. They were trained on how humans think. And so they work and think and speak like humans. And so that's like the way because it's more efficient to go directly to the people in real life, it's more efficient to go directly to the agents when you have a team of them. So, it's it's it's a kind of a cheat code to think about agents in Grok Bot the same way you would think as if they were human beings. That's why I give them names. A lot of people they name their bots like developer bot, marketer bot. No, I like to give them names and then you give them titles and they just

55:09work better. Right? I found that by giving them names and then giving them titles instead of having the title their name, they're able to figure out who they should be talking to, who they should be working with, who they should be getting permission from a lot better. You want to think of them like humans and work with them like they are human

55:24beings. Yeah. You know, so if we just go through the the steps, we spoke about the the voice dump, um like the brain dump that then goes into Grok Bot. You do some of the reverse prompting to come up with those kind of three things that you want automated first. From there, you share that with Slate or whoever your chief of staff, like whatever uh is the name of your agent. From there, it will then create like these

55:49sub-agents. And you talk about this very kind of slow this slow and steady approach actually helps remove the AI slop. Like it creating it slow and steady, not adding a ton of agents to begin with. And I And I thought it was really clear and really good what you mentioned around you will know when you need another agent because it's like you might be doing marketing or you might be talking to like the the coder, like the developer on your agent team, and then

56:18be like, "Oh, we need design." Like we I need some I need someone that can do design. And that's when you then create like a design agent. And so, where I wanted to go, Alex, is at what point because it seems like when you have these new agents, a lot of the times, and you mentioned this earlier,

56:39it starts with this vision document. First of all, is that accurate? Like is that the way that you're kind of giving clarity to a new agent in the beginning? Cuz I'm just thinking how people can actually get great outputs and not slop outputs. And if so, if that is kind of the first step in your process, can you just go into a bit more detail on this vision document? Like what are you including? What sort of information

57:07is in there? What are the the piece of information, the data points that an agent needs on Grok Bot to be successful and actually productive for people? Yeah, I I as you said, like to use vision documents a lot. I mean, an example is something from a couple hours ago. This was uh 9:40, so 5 hours ago, woke up, walked to talked to my project manager, I "Okay, we got to figure out what we're going to get done today. What

57:35are the goals for today?" I basically said, as I said earlier, look at our vision doc where we need to go, our goals, look at where we're at now, and figure out how to close that gap and build a hyper-detailed markdown file with everything in it. If I want to create a new bot, go to my Chief of Staff, I say, "Hey, I want to create this new bot that is a design bot. Create a markdown file that has as much detail as possible on how to make

57:59the best bot we can." And there's a lot of advantages to this. Having it create a lot of artifacts in markdown files. One is it helps with its own context. If it brain dumps and puts everything it's thinking into a markdown file, it's not going to forget anything. It's not going to forget any details cuz it all goes into that record. And so, we have to go, build out the vision doc for everything we want to get done. This acts as the measurable goal for what we're trying to achieve. And then we go, "Okay, now based on this doc, take action and build out whatever you need to do." Now, since

58:33everything is written down, it's set in stone, it's black and white in this doc, we can measurably work against it. That's when AI is at most impactful, when it has something to measure against, something to look against. So, you want to build a new bot? Okay, build me a markdown file that has all the goals and everything we want to achieve with this new bot. So, when it creates the bot, it can't get lazy. It can't skip over details. It has that measurement, right? Like, if you are running a race or running a marathon and you have a goal of getting it under an hour and a half or whatever,

59:09you have a hard measurement you're going against. You can black or white say pass or fail. You can't get lazy. You can't be like, "Oh, I think that was good enough that race." No, you have a hard measured goal. And that's what makes AI impactful. It stops it from hallucinating. It stops it from being lazy because you have that hard measurement it's going to constantly check against. So anything you want to build, anything you want to do, always make sure you have that document, that markdown file that has those measurable goals. So that when it builds the bot, builds the project, builds whatever, it can always check back and go, "Okay, did

59:43I accomplish this or did I not?" It's very binary. Yeah. That That That's really good. So So just to confirm, so when whenever you want to build a new agent, you're actually going back to Slate, the cheaper stuff, and you're basically working with Slate to build or like write down based off the brain dump and like I guess the interaction back and forth, the vision document for that's new agent. And then you're giving that to the new agent so that it kind of has like this end state and these goals that it's working towards. And that's how you

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1:01:18you. Let's get back to the show. That's how you do it for new dot bots. That's how you pretty much do it for every task. To give another example, I'm designing this video game. I'm building my dream video game. I fell in love with this video game a year ago called Ark Raiders. They absolutely botched everything after it came out. The game stinks now. So, I'm building my own version. And like I for the design part of it, I'm doing basically the same thing where I'm like, "Let's build a mood board of

1:01:45what we want this game to look like." And then all every time we design weapons or maps or characters after this, we can measure it against the mood board to make sure it fits into what we're building. Right? And that just makes everything much more impactful. So, yeah, building bots, writing code, designing things, whatever it is, you always want to make sure the bot makes a measurable goal it's chasing first, whether it's a mood board for design or a spec for building a bot, and then you have it execute against that goal, against that spec, against that mood

1:02:20board. Yeah. You know, I I was just thinking like it's such a crazy time that we live in. One of the things, even as you were speaking, I was just noting it down, right? And these I'm sure you have, well, I can see that you have more, but here's kind of just some of the agents that you have, right? So, you have Slate, which is your chief of staff. You have Cindy who's the revenue ops. She did the sponsorship. You have Dusty who's the community manager. You have Reed who's your like opportunity researcher. Maybe you can even explain

1:02:51even what that means. But the thought in my mind, cuz you even mentioned this like slow and steady approach as you've like built this team over time. Like what we're seeing now didn't happen for you on day one, but even still, where my mind goes is that this can very quickly get overwhelming. And for you as like the ultimate manager of this and like conductor of all of

1:03:17this. Have you found yourself getting in a place where it's like there's too many things going on and it almost becomes difficult difficult for a quality assurance. Like to to check that it's actually working in the right place. Um like Dusty for example is your community manager is actually doing things to a good level. Like are there certain checks things that you would put in place so that like the quality of the work stays high? Because I'm just thinking about that person at home that's like yes you have agents that communicating back and forth and it like looks cool on

1:03:57screen. But just me looking at it as someone who hasn't started using it yet. It looks like it could be overwhelming. Has that been your experience? Yeah, I this kind of comes back to the point around starting small. And but even when you start small you also want to start slow. So if you start with your two or three bots you give them some responsibilities but you also make it so that before they take the action you review at least for first. Like right now uh my revenue ops Cindy who I've talked about a lot who's closing deals responding to sponsorship opportunities she's shooting off like 10 emails a day

1:04:39replying to a bunch negotiating deals closing deals. I didn't just create Cindy and go hey start responding all my emails researching everyone and close deals. At first I started off and I just said Cindy please every morning at 8:00 a.m. research everyone who's emailed me and give me a report on who's legitimate and who's not. Then for the first few mornings I read that report I'm like okay these are pretty good you you you figured out how to do it. You figured out how to look at LinkedIn and see who's legit. You have good taste around who's who's and who's

1:05:10not. Then I said, "Okay, for each one of those now, build me a draft of an email on how you would respond to them, how you would negotiate the deal." Then we spent a few days doing that. I read the emails, made sure they looked good. Then after that, I said, "Okay, now take the top three, and you can send them off

1:05:32every morning, those emails." Next few days, top three of those, sent them off. So, what I'm doing is, not only am I starting small, but I'm also starting slow, where I am slowly giving the bots responsibilities. Slowly, "Hey, just start with research." Okay, now you did research, start writing drafts. Now you have drafts, start sending off a few of these, until you build the point of trust with that agent. Right? And along the way, say it messes up. Say, and this is what happened with Cindy, it the emails just didn't sound like me. They didn't sound human, they didn't sound empathetic enough. They felt very robotic during the negotiations. I still

1:06:10want the negotiation to be kind of empathetic, right? To feel human, so they want to work with you. And so, I corrected some of the ways it spoke. I took example emails I've sent in the past, and said, "Hey, put this in a memory, how I write here. And now improve your drafts." And then when the drafts got good enough, that's when I said, "Okay, I trust you now, this work is good. We have created a process for this now I believe in. Now you can go out and start taking the actions." And then we start testing what the next step would be. So, it's not only about starting small, it's

1:06:42about starting slow, tinkering with the process every step of the way, till it's dialed in to what you want, till it's speaking like you. Uh and then, once that's good, you give it that responsibility, then move on, and make it a little bit bigger, and give it a little bit more responsibilities. You don't try to do everything at once. Yeah. I spent a lot of time on Claude, and my experience using Claude fundamentally changed once I started uh like connecting all of the different software and apps and products that I use on a daily basis, right? So, now it's connected to my Gmail and then my

1:07:19calendar and then notion and I we use granola for like all of my meeting transcripts. It's connected to granola. Can you just explain because you mentioned obviously that Cindy's going through your emails and maybe you can just show us super quick when it comes to connecting GrokBot to other services outside of GrokBot, how does that even work? Like is it a very similar experience to Claude and ChatGPT where you have like the connectors or is

1:07:48it different? Yeah, they have the same exact thing. So, they have their marketplace and you can even see uh some of the ones I have here. So, as you said, I think the most powerful thing you can do is just connect it to your life. So, Gmail, calendar, if it has access to all your

1:08:02emails and calendar, you're good to go. Like it'll it'll be able to stay on top of things for you. But then taking this a step further, there's so many other ones I really like and it's all one click. You just click and it installs it. Agent Mail is so I'm not sponsored by any of these companies, by the way. Agent Mail, so good. Basically gives your agent the ability to create its own email inboxes so it can sign up for, you

1:08:23know, websites, create its own accounts. Amazing. Stripe. Now it can spin up payment links for me. If someone wants to buy something from me, "Hey GrokBot, can you make me a payment link for this so I can make money on this?" Boom, spins up. "Hey, can you create an invoice for this?" Boom, spins it up. Vercel, this is my favorite way to host websites. "Hey GrokBot, I need a dashboard that shows me the growth of my community over the last month. Can you take that and build a website on it, host on Vercel so I can send the link to

1:08:52my friend who can check it out?" 30 seconds later, I have a live dashboard live on the internet anyone can access. That's really good. If you can do those, like these are my core ones, you're good to go. Like your bot will have all the context it needs and can take tons of action. You know, these

1:09:09are really good for entrepreneurs. There's many, many other ones in here. Everything under the sun, anything you need you can connect here. HubSpot if you need a CRM, um many others. And yeah, the the connections are are really, really good. Yeah. You know what, Alex? And before we get out of here, because I know for me, I'm like listening to this and I'm starting to think of different use cases and ways that I can use this in my business. And I'm sure that it's the same for someone that's listening at home, especially someone that's similar to you, is maybe like a solopreneur or they have ambitions of

1:09:45starting a company. Um and one of the things and like where my mind always goes, because I uh I grew up wanting to be an entrepreneur and I spent a lot of time procrastinating before I started my first business. And so I'm so big on like the first action. Like how do you reduce that amount of time from you being inspired, like seeing a video like this or hearing this conversation, and then actually starting

1:10:11to build and take action? And so if someone is listening at home, and let's just say they have a few hours free after listening to this conversation, maybe it's like a Thursday night or a Friday night or it's on the weekend, it's like a Saturday evening or a Sunday evening before the work week,

1:10:27and they just had a few hours. I'm so curious and like back to that point of just taking those first action steps. What is it that you would have them do immediately after listening to this conversation that is just going to put them on the right track? Like it's just going to get them started in the right way. Like what steps would you give

1:10:49them? Two exercises I'd give and this is perfect timing for most Americans watching this is going to well, I guess you're probably posting this later, but they they they'll probably come out before Sunday football starts tonight. One of my favorite things to do is have my iPad, have my MacBook, then in between commercials, I do things in commercials. Send a quick prompt Every

1:11:11commercial send a quick prompt, right? Football is back, do this exercise. Two exercises. Exercise one we talked about quite a bit. That is the brain dump to reverse prompt. That's an exercise you can do immediately right now after you do this. You brain dump everything about yourself. You say, "Hey, what can you do for me? How can you help me get closer

1:11:30to my goals?" Here's the other one. So, that helps you That exercise helps you figure out what AI can do for you. Then the other side of it is actually executing, actually doing those things. This exercise helps you get better at building that reflex. I think a lot of people struggle with the reflex. Even they know what AI is capable of, they struggle with the reflex of like actually doing it, actually having the

1:11:56AI do those things. And this exercise figure it fixes that. The exercise is challenge yourself. An entire day, if you want, I think that's smart. Or if you just want to do it for an hour, it's up to you. Everything you do during that day, do it through AI. Do it through Grokbot. Do it through ChatGPT work, Claude

1:12:22co-work, whatever one you want to use. Do not allow yourself to do anything on your computer manually. Nothing. Everything has to be through your AI agent of choice. Grokbot, Claude, Codex, doesn't matter. You will be shocked at what you are capable of doing. And my bet is, with pretty high confidence, everything you need to do, it will work through that agent. Everything you need to do, it'll not only work through that agent, it'll do it 10 times faster than you could have done it by yourself. And if you do that, that'll help you in a

1:12:57few different ways. It'll help you, as I said, build that reflex of going, "Oh, I need to do this thing. I'm going to go to AI." But it'll also help you just figure out the bounds of what this technology is capable of. Right? Like I yesterday I gave this use case a couple times, but I was like I made this challenge for myself yesterday. I could only use AI for literally every single thing I do, sending emails, replying to people,

1:13:21creating things. I said, "Hey, I got to write this script for an ad read. Go in my email, search back for every ad read I've ever done and sent to an advertiser before, and then write the ad read in my voice." I didn't know if it could do it. It found every single ad read, and then it saw how I send the ad reads. It saw I did it by creating a Google Doc and making it commentable, and then it gave me the link, put the link in the email draft, and put the draft in my folder, and like put it in the exact format I

1:13:54send ad reads out to everyone. And it just figured it out. And now I'm like, "Okay, I'm never going to do it the old way ever again. I'm just going to have my AI agent do it." So, two exercises, brain dump to reverse prompt, and the challenge yourself uh exercise, which is tomorrow do nothing manually. Do 100%

1:14:15everything through your agent. Yeah. You know what, Alex, first of all, just thank you cuz you've been so great and just showing everything um and just being like so open and like the step-by-step and the reverse prompting method. Like you've kind of given away everything. Uh so, first of all, thank you. And then secondly, I just I I I love the challenge because I think sometimes you almost have to like force the change that you want to make. Right? Like as humans, we're very good at staying in a comfort zone, but even though we know that there's a better way of doing things, we keep doing it the old way cuz the old way is

1:14:53familiar and it is comfortable. And so I'm actually going to go and do exactly what you just described of like, okay, for 1 day, or even if it's just a few hours, like AI is the interface. Like I have to do everything through that process with interacting with AI. Grok Bot. And it's just to your point, I think very quickly you start to see what the technology is truly capable of and it starts opening up these new opportunities. And so I think it's exciting because my hunch, my educated guess, is that we're going to get people that listen to this conversation and then reach out to

1:15:33us and they're like, yeah, this was pretty crazy like the way that I'm using AI and Grok Bot after having heard this conversation. I think it's going to change lives. I think that exercise, that second exercise, will change lives. I think people will be shocked by what AI can actually do at this point. It can do anything a human being can do and

1:15:52probably better. Yeah. Yeah. You know Alex, before we get off it, just tell people where they can go and follow you if they want to kind of see your content or just stay stay up to date with you. Where can they go and find you? For sure, my two biggest social platforms are YouTube and X. So search Alex Finn on YouTube. I get videos out almost every day on what the latest tools are, how to use them. Find me on X, follow on there. I have a newsletter

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1:16:38Sweet. Alex, you've been amazing, mate. This has been so good. I appreciate it. This is a blast. Let's do it again. I love it. Yes, we definitely have to do this again sometime. So, if you enjoyed this conversation and you want to hear even more stories like this, then just click here. And also, my team is going to put some more videos that you can

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