# Run OpenClaw & Hermes on phones

Channel: The Next New Thing
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfwLXZ91tiM
Duration: 15 min
Language: English
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[0:00] Combos is an app that allows you to launch open claw and Hermes agents on your phone. Can you have it copy an app? Just paste the link and tell your agent to copy it. It's done. Let's just do a screen share. I'll just show you how you can do it. Presented by Zapier, the AI automation company. Shane, let me see how easy it

[0:16] is to create an agent on your platform. All right. I just open Combos. I hit start a combo. Mhm. I can choose whether or not I want to share my name with the agent. So, I'll throw it up. I need to swipe up. And then it joins. And so, usually it takes a couple seconds. It goes and builds everything in the background. So, it's provisioning an email address for this, a phone number,

[0:39] web browsing capabilities, everything. And then it just joins like a member in a chat. And this is open claw right off the bat? Open claw or Hermes. So, you get to pick your default. All right, you want to ask it a just a quick question to see that it is an agent. What makes it an agent? [laughter] What makes it an agent? I mean, I didn't

[0:59] mean to ask that, but let's see. What makes you an agent? want me to do? I I was going to say like I was going to ask you to ask it a question that will have it prove that it is an agent. There we go. An agent is a model that can take Ask it, "What can

[1:11] you do?"

[1:16] This is not yet available to the public. You're still rolling it out in uh small batches to a wait list and we'll have a link below in the show notes to anyone who wants it. All right. So, now we've got it up and running. Can you have it copy an app? The way that you showed on Twitter. Yeah. So, I was I was talking to Robert Stephens actually and he was like, "I don't even download apps anymore. I just screenshot the app in the App Store and throw it in the thing and go code the app and then it just builds a personalized version of us the app that

[1:46] I want." And I was like, "That's interesting. I wonder if I could make that so anyone in the world could do it." Mhm. And so, we we made it where you can literally just take a photo, go to favorites. And I was looking at this app I have on my phone. I pay $29.99 a year for Cal AI. I just It's so simple. I drop photos, it analyzes the photos, it tells me the calories in it. And I was like, "Can you Can you build this app into an

[2:11] agent?" And I screenshot the App Store listing. Uh-huh. Drop this in. And I had no idea if it was going to work. I was just sitting there at a coffee shop Saturday morning. Robert said that to me and I was like, "I wonder if it'll Like these things are really powerful." And it really just is an accountability coach, but it's not even a good like coach. Got a Cal AI Cal or Mac. Want me

[2:36] to fill it out? Yes, please. And this is Robert Stephens, a friend of yours, the founder of Geek Squad, who has told you that he is using this app in that way. And so, you're saying, "Okay, let me Let me demo it and see how it works for me." All right, it did it. It's got the skill MD file and it says, "Snap a photo of anything you eat and I'll log the calories and the macros instantly. No app, no database." You have a photo, I'm

[2:59] sure. of food. Let's go find uh Let's go find a healthy meal. All right, this one's healthy. I was hoping for a non-healthy meal. Okay. Yeah, and this one's a little harder to see what's in there. And uh you know, you always have the red states. What's cool is it's like an accountability coach, too. It's not just an app. And it lives inside of where all my other agents can live. And so, it just broke it down. Carnitas plus alumi

[3:22] plus avocado, here's your estimate. What's your daily target? So, I can Let's do 2,200 a day. Oh, I love that. You need to ask it now, not early on? And I want to lose 10 lb. Uh And what's cool is it like it starts with that app and then has access to everything in the world. And so, what I actually did is I took this, the Cal AI, and I used to have a trainer with

[3:49] MyBodyTutor. I used to pay $399 a month. His name was Kai. I actually loved this guy. So, I took the Cal AI app as the seed of an idea. And then I took all my messaging logs of Kai from iMessage, put it I just dropped it in here. I copied and pasted it in the chat. And then I said, "The mybodytutor.com blog has all their philosophy." And I love that company for what it's worth. I dropped the link in and said, "Go read everything about MyBodyTutor. Here's all my chat logs from Kai." And what he did is he's a psychology coach about how you feel about food. So, I just built Kai. I

[4:25] literally named it Kai. And it started with the Cal AI thing. And then it went into personalizing it more. Then I was like, "I wonder if I could just combine it with fitness." It knows how I work out every day. It'll always ask me, "You know, are you playing pickleball? Did you do that?" This thing is the greatest thing I've ever built. And every single day it just gets better and better and better. And then if I see something else, I'm like, "Yeah, you know what? I want to add that to my program." I don't like go download a new app. I just give it to Kai. And now Kai has become the

[4:54] best trainer I've ever had. Your company is backed by who? Uh Who do you have to thank? Andreessen Horowitz, USV, Fred Wilson is on our board, uh and a lot of other like really, you know, awesome investors. Let's see some of the other use cases that you have here. Um you told me that you use this for a meeting coordinator and you also said that we can't look at your private meetings. Can I see something that's not private um to see how an agent in a chat helps? And by the way, the way you're doing it is you're saving each one of these conversations as its own app. Why are you Why are you

[5:23] flipping back the apps back and forth between them? [snorts] One is on dev and one I'm showing you the new stuff on dev. Oh, got it. Okay. All right, so now you're going to show me uh an actual conversation. Let's see a live conversation here with humans and agents together. Yeah, and I think coordination is one of the most challenging things in the world and is really unique to kind of groups of people. And so, I I love wake surfing. And I if you, you know, Calendly.com's great and uh um Calendly and all these things when it's like one to one or even one to four. But when you're like 10 people and

[6:00] it's an opinion, where you want to go, what people's times, when are you available, it's like it can take 5 hours of your day. Like and you know, my assistant used to try to do that, but not for your personal life or even most business happens in text now. So, it's kind of like you're just in this chaotic text message. So, I add Laird. Laird is Laird Hamilton. He's the best big surfer in the world. An agent that's based It's a We're talking about an agent that's based on him that you added into this

[6:24] chat, okay? Totally. And so, I literally just tell Laird at the beginning like, "Here's our Here's where our boat's at. Here's what we like to do. We got to be out before sunset. Make sure you look at sunset. Make sure you look at the weather. I don't want a boat in the rain. I only have six seats and we always need people

[6:42] to bring waters and food or whatever." So, that's like it's it's just simple. And you just talk to it and it goes and builds that agent for you just from texting it. And so, then it comes back great. It renames itself Laird in the chat. Now I have Laird here. And all I say is April 15th, 4:00 p.m. That's all I say in the chat now. This

[7:03] used to take me hours. And it'll say, "Cool." It I This is me kind of training it at first. This person says, "Out for the 14th, but can do the 15th." So, it starts tracking in, out, etc. Okay. Adam's in. Shane and them are not. And it starts asking other people, "Hey, anyone else in? We got to be off by 6:30. That's when the sun goes down. We have the sunset. Looks like it's going to be clear skies that day. Here's the address." I wait, I like how it's got a check next to uh Adam there. And then I also said like how it says underneath,

[7:31] "Hey, drop your RSVP and let us know who's got uh whatever, soda water, etc." Okay, let's keep going. And And then someone else dropped a photo of me surfing being a smart ass. And it's like, "That's what I'm talking about. Will Willy's clearly in. Look at that form." And I was like, "That's me." And it goes, "Oh, legend updated confirming Shane, apparently the star of the highlight reel." So, it's like it's funny. It's having a blast. People actually love it. I kicked it out of another group I had and they're like,

[7:57] "Bring Bring it back. Bring Willy back. Willy" Look at this. I also like how it says under Willy, "You in or just hyping Shane's footage because because of the photo." Okay, I got how this works. Let's look at another one. What about something called radar? What is Hold on. Hold on. One minute. I think Get the screenshot out here. So, it depends on the date. Well, then it

[8:13] starts coordinating. Okay, you in? Probably. Let me check with my wife. I'm in for the 15th. And then literally it adds Willy pending wife approval. With uh with a laughing emoji at like making fun of him. Yeah. So, yeah, it's great. Okay, I got it. Let's Let's look at radar. Um So, radar is one of my favorite. So, I I love songwriters. I love music. And there's always these venues in town and I'm like always trying to figure out, "How do I know if that venue has one of my favorite artists or a new artist I've never found?" Um and there's also my favorite writers on the these days

[8:48] they're all writing from RSS. I don't want to download an RSS reader. I don't even know what RSS means. And so, I just drop in all my favorite website links. So, my top five venues in Nashville, my top 10 songwriters, my top 10 artists, my personal friends who are actually songwriters, my top six writers that I love, their blogs. I did one the other day. I took Patrick Collison, the CEO of Stripe, has a list on his website of his 89 favorite people that has links to all their sites. And I said, "Build me a reminder if any of his favorite people write any articles about tech, AI, or

[9:23] like um kind of the future of um it was like the future of uh technology." And so, now it just goes and builds that and it's now monitoring all of his site. Then it's monitoring my favorite writers. And then I said, "Every morning send me a summary. And I want you to tell me if a website's updated, if there's artists playing at venues, if there's people that are folk or country or songwriters that are in my

[9:47] style that I like playing at a venue." And every morning I get this update of like people I'm tracking, writers I'm tracking, artists I'm tracking, and venues I'm tracking. So, it's like 3rd and Lindsley is one of my favorite venues in town and it's really hard to always keep up with like what they have. And all this is coming together to a little daily summary every day um that can also be about, you know, you can do this for work. You can monitor all of your network. I can say, "Here's my social

[10:11] network. Look at everyone I follow. Track everyone. If there's anything interesting they post or going viral." Like you can do all kinds of things. But then all comes back to this radar chat. And then I can just keep personalizing it every day. proactively and it says, "Hey Shane, this thing just happened. I want you to

[10:26] come back into the chat and see it." Yep. And then you can keep talking to it. Ask it more que- Like today I did this at 8:00 a.m. and it's, you know, my buddy Morgan Evans just dropped his album. He's touring in Australia and I texted him literally. I was like, "Oh dude, congrats on the album launch. That's amazing." Um and so I've been kind of obsessed with that idea for a long time, but it's never been where you can take all of the internet and all these different use cases and then personalize it into one chat. Also,

[10:49] we're already building all these agents. Let's look at uh how about a personal one, a relationship you and your girlfriend? Yeah, this one is one of my favorite ones. So, we dropped in our whole calendar RSS. We just did a a calendar feed. And then we dropped in a note we have that is every day and all the people that we care about and we just copied and pasted it in here and said "Always give us a day of what's going on. And then every Sunday give us

[11:17] a summary of the week ahead." Okay. And so last Friday was a really cool. We got this in the morning. Friday night rundown. Here's the weather. And I always tell it to Okay. It's all about like coordinating multiple services into one thing. That's what makes this so powerful. So, it's like, "Here's the weather for the day. Um here's what it's going to be. But also, here's your

[11:34] dinner tonight. Here's the phone number. Here's the directions. Here's the best five things I've found through all the reviews on Google. Here's a little happy hour special. Also, I went and researched the parking. Here's where to park and make sure you arrive early. Afterwards, it's going to go to Bluebird. Bluebird starts at 7:30. Here's the link there. Here's the songwriters that are performing. Here's their biggest hits. Here's like things about them. And then getting there, it's then like, "Hey, here's the distance

[11:58] from your house to the restaurant. Here's the distance with the rush hour from your restaurant to the other venue. Here's where to park once you get to that venue. And then here's the suggested timeline schedule of the night. Um and then All right, I'm seeing this. Let's take it off screen share and just now talk about where this is all going. What's coming up? So, it's still not available to the public. People can't go to a website and get it. Of course, we're going to have a link in the description where people can add themselves to the wait list. And how

[12:23] many people are you letting in a day? Probably like 50 or so. Um so, the the app is out there. You can work at you're just unlocking the agents uh takes an invite code. Okay. All right, and we'll help you all get there. Um you told me in the future or in the near future, you guys are working on app

[12:39] connections. Will Notion be one of them? I need to update my Notion docs. I think all the things around um like documents, Mhm. calendar, the general workspace make a lot of sense. Uh and this overlap of work actually is personal. A lot of people do work in iMessage or Signal or WhatsApp. And so, being the messenger that actually integrates to all of our kind of workspaces, I think it's going to be uh high on the connections list. Can I suggest one thing, Shane? My sponsor, Zapier, they've got Zapier SDK, one connection, and then let them go handle all the other connections instead of you all building it individually. And maybe

[13:16] you focus on the key ones yourselves, but let Zapier just bring in everything else. Yeah, we're thinking about uh Convos Connect is an is an SDK layer, but we are not going to be responsible for it. We We need the developer ecosystem and the builder ecosystem or just the Zapiers of the world to let everyone connect to what they want. It's just bring in your own personal data and you should control that. When you and I talked, you said that one of the benefits of this is that two agents can

[13:40] talk to each other. Give me an example of where my agent would want to talk to someone else's agent like your agent. And why would they need privacy for that? Everyone's going to have a personal agent. So, we're going to be in a group of 10 people and 10 people are going to have their own personal agents. They can make that group chat noisy as hell. Or they can literally just create

[14:00] a side combo. It's actually in the app. You can click and just create a side combo. But it's programmable, so agents can do it, not just humans. And all those agents can go coordinate. It has access to your calendar. Mine has access to my calendar. But we don't want to share I don't want to give you my whole calendar. I don't want to give you my whole workspace. So, those agents can protect us, protect our attention while

[14:20] coordinating and they can negotiate. They can find times together. They can do briefings. You can All right, it's convos.org for anyone who wants to go download it now. And if you want to get on the wait list and get fast access, we'll have a link in the show notes. Shane, thanks so much. And everyone else, go subscribe because I've got more interviews with founders who are doing incredible things with AI that you need to know about ahead of

[14:42] uh even release. Bye, everyone.

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