# How to Build a $100K/Year AI Business With No Employees

Channel: The Next New Thing
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8hJUVh0jME
Duration: 28 min
Language: English
Words: 6148
Transcript page: https://viewrankai.com/tools/youtube-transcript/F8hJUVh0jME

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[0:00] You're about to meet a guy who uses Open Claw to run a hundred thousand dollar a year business. I didn't expect to meet him. I got an email from one of his agents about one of his businesses and we started chatting and then we get on a Zoom and then I start to see what he's doing and I go, I could do this. I could learn from you. I started implementing some of what he did and then I go, this is amazing. We've got to do an interview where you do a screen share and he's like, yeah. I go, can you show everything? He goes, yeah. Let's get

[0:22] into it. Presented by Zapier, the AI automation company. What is that? Yeah, that's actually my Stripe dashboard on how much revenue we're doing and everything. So, we just crossed like eight like almost nine K this last month. Okay, excellent. Over a hundred thousand dollars a year and it's being run using an Open Claw agent. Let's take a look at your website before we go into how your

[0:46] agent works. This is a PR market for all kinds of AI models and API. And it's used by over thirteen thousand people across the globe. So, they come to buy any kind of AI model and API and I've been running this business for almost two years now and it's entirely run by agents. Yeah, you and I actually talked about how we first met because you were running another business. We were talking about that other something or other and then suddenly it it dawned on me that you were using an agent to communicate with me to run your business. I said, you got to show me how

[1:15] you do it. Let's get a look at it. You're running your whole system inside of Discord. Can I see your Discord and let's take a look at maybe the PR person since that's how you and I met. The PR agent connected me with you. Yeah, that's that's what happened. One of my PR agents basically reached out to and I think your name will be here with a long few other people that you will

[1:36] see over here. I see Gary Tan you're trying to get a hold of. You're trying to get a hold of all kinds of other people. He replied. Oh, Gary replied? Yeah. Okay. So, wait. How does it find us? How does it find people like me? How does it find people like Gary? Is it you who said, I'm I'm a big fan of Andrew. I'm

[1:50] going to go get it? No, it's the agent. What does the agent do to go find people? Agent basically uses web search and he just tries to find hate who can be the relevant ICP. Like who can be the relevant person and just goes out and sends messages to a lot of people by itself. Like it has its own email

[2:06] account. What do you say give it an email account? Yeah, so I use its Gmail account and we use GOCLI here that you will see that can basically access and this is open claw in the back. What is GOCLI? So GOCLI allows you to use and interact with all the Gmail services. Like you

[2:27] can use Gmail, calendar, Google Drive. Dude, this is mind blowing because you know what? I tried to Not I tried, I gave my open claw agent an email account in our network, but what I did was I did it I treated it like a regular person which kept giving me issues and I then it also had to deal with loading the web browser and it kept getting tripped up by

[2:47] Google's are you a robot issues. Okay. So how do you give it the ICP for it to go on the web and hunt down people who fit that ICP? Yeah, so it I It's okay. For each of the agent, what I do I use cursor or cloud code to set them up. Mhm. So I talked to my cursor a lot. Hey, this is the agent I want to do. I want to get me on a lot of podcasts. I want to be on a lot of websites and blah blah blah. And it creates the memory and everything else that is required for each of the agent. So the agent is

[3:19] already set in that way and then it gets access to all the videos tools it requires like LinkedIn search. That's why I I use API market as well for LinkedIn search Unipile. Wait. It's the other one. marketplace is your site where you find APIs that allow you to interact with places like LinkedIn. What's the tool that lets you interact with LinkedIn cuz LinkedIn is a pain in the butt when it

[3:39] comes to connections? have two APIs. So one of them is a lot much much cheaper. It's called as Z desk. If I just search for LinkedIn, this one allows you to search. Okay. Without getting my system banned. I'm not going to get cuz uh my partner's had his business my business partner had his business banned

[4:00] off of LinkedIn. Um okay. So, this will do it. as Unipile. Let me show you. And then Unipile. Yep. Okay. And this will let you do searches or let your agents search LinkedIn, find people who fit your ICP. And the ICP basically comes from the same doc. Do you share it with everyone of the agents individually or do you have one place

[4:22] for all of them? No. So, there are two kinds of memory that my agents have. One is a shared memory long-term memory across all the agents. Then each agent also have its own memory as well. Okay. So, I manage something called as long-term memory and short-term memory which uh this some paper was released and I basically asked Claude to

[4:38] implement in my open Claude. Okay. All right. So, now it's finding the people. It's sending out email using essentially a Gmail account on your Google G Suite account. Yeah. then it Do you check the email that it sends out? I For this one I don't really. So, there are different agents. For the other agent that I'll show you after this, I do check the emails for that. For for this one I don't. I'm like Okay. And frankly, that's because there are tons of podcasters like me. If you piss me off by using the wrong word or sounding like it's AI slop, not a huge deal, right? On to the next. That

[5:12] But you don't have that kind of time. That's the reason for it, by the way. There are not a lot of other podcasters like me. But I understand your thinking as somebody who's going out there. Does it write messages as you? No. So, this is called as Anika. She's [snorts] my head of communication. Okay. All right. So, it comes from Anika. And is every one of the agents

[5:30] using the hey@ email address or no? No. They're different email address depending on what they're supposed to do. Okay. Do you have to if you're using the Gaug CLI have to pay for a whole user account on your your Gmail Google Workspace? You do. Okay. I I prefer to do that. Okay. All right. So, so now you do that. It monitors its own email. As soon as it gets a reply from Andrew doing whatever,

[5:54] does it reply automatically back? No, it tells me, "Hey Shashank, this person has replied. Can I reply there?" And blah blah blah. I just said, "Okay, go ahead and reply to that person and do do your stuff." Got it. Just go ahead and reply. So Gary Tan comes in, you go, "Wait a minute. This is There's only one president of Y

[6:09] Combinator. Yeah. I want to Got it. Okay, anything else that we need to see in that? Let's take a look at just like Give me like a quick walk-through of what's going on in this Discord chat. Yeah, so if you see like it basically goes all like online. Process will look at all the emails it has sent before. Who Who Who it has to follow up with,

[6:28] who has replied, who has not. How? What's the process that it uses to keep track of who it sent messages to? That's always a pain in the neck. Does it have a CRM? Yeah, so you know, so we don't use any CRM. What we do here in this one is that this agent makes a markdown where it tracks all the things it is doing right

[6:43] now. So there's a CRM, but locally. Got it. And the local The The CRM is a markdown file that says these are the people that I contacted. How does it know if I didn't get If I didn't hear back from somebody within 5 days to go follow up? Yeah, so if you see here like best position CRM contacts, right? Cools, never placed. So it it it checks

[7:02] everything. Got it. So simple. the re-engage date? What is the next one? Like the cool down on April 1st and Okay. three prior sent with no reply. Dude, my Hermes agent suggested that I get a HubSpot account for this stuff, but it felt like overkill. And then it said if you use Notion, it's going to be

[7:21] over complicated. Mhm. All right. No, I use I use Trello. Okay, but Trello is not a CRM for you. Trello is project management. Yes. Okay, let's let's continue with this. We'll get to Trello in a moment. I think I see it all, but give me a just a little more of a walk-through. Scroll

[7:35] down a little bit more. What is this? Okay, this is This is the podcast pipeline. Yep. Got it. Okay, anything This is what it is doing basically, right? It's loading the memory inbox and the CRM. Mhm. And also live inbox and read the CRM. And the speaking pipeline. Okay, got it. what it does. And and all these in the CRM and the

[8:00] speaking pipeline all markdown files. Yep. Okay, one last question before we move on to the other thing. Why are you using Discord? Why aren't you using I actually I know you use Telegram for some of it. Why is Discord your main communication channel? Yeah, so see I wanted to have multiple agents and I wanted to interact each

[8:16] with each one of them separately. So, Telegram was good, but it became a bit annoying because I have other stuff in there. So, I'm like, okay, I can actually create a whole Discord server only for my agents and I can talk to them separately and the agents can also talk to each other. And and you see them talking to each

[8:32] other. No, not so much, but yeah, they can if I tell them. Okay, by the way, I'm I know I'm talking very fast and like very eager at this because I love this. When you get this to work, it's so freaking exciting and you're using this to the next level beyond what I'm what I'm doing and I want to do this. Okay, I see that. Let's look at LinkedIn. So, PR, you got

[8:50] outbound. We didn't even get into how it has its own Help a Reporter Out account so that it could or email coming in there so it could look for people. I get that. Let's now move from PR to LinkedIn. Yeah, so you do on LinkedIn? done here is okay, I've been posting a lot on LinkedIn for the last two or three years now almost like four times every week and now I have a good following and everything. So, what I have done here is that

[9:15] first I did a I gave it how I write. I gave it like You just gave it your best posts. A lot of them like thousands like hundreds or thousands of articles I've written over the years. I've given all of that. Then I I wrote a book as well. So, I gave it that book as well.

[9:31] Okay. Then I told everything about myself. Like my entire life what I I done so far. How did you do that? What did you dictate into something? Yeah, I was using WhisperFlow and other cloud agents to make like something called as Shashank profile.markdown. That file has basically Side note, I use WhisperFlow all the time. I freaking hate it. I know there are better tools than that. Okay, let's move on. All right, so you gave it all that and now knows how you write, it knows everything about you. And then what is it doing? Is it writing your

[9:56] LinkedIn post, too? Yes. Oh, it's also writing your LinkedIn posts. No, the the ghost writer writes LinkedIn posts. This one is mostly for my LinkedIn management where it interacts with my ICPs likes and comments. Got it, right. So we're not getting into the ghost writer, but you do have a ghost writer agent, also same system. What I wanted to know was more directly how are you getting customers and what you're showing me here is LinkedIn management for who to reply to more directly. So if your ICP, someone who is a potential customer, writes a post, how does the agent catch it and then tell you, "Hey, go go take a look

[10:28] and comment on interact?" the agent knows what I do, what my business does, and who I need to want to like uh get in front of. So it finds those people, finds what they're writing about, looks at all of their post, and then finds me five candidate post where I can write, and it basically tells me, "Hey, this this is the post that I found, right? And this is the comment

[10:52] that I should post." should draft. Okay. Did Does it draft it for you? So let let's actually let's take a look here. I'm going to do a quick reading of this. This is Runak. He is a founder at Reducto. Got 78 reactions. This is the post, okay. And the post says, "AI agents don't need prettier dashboards. They need operational context. They can query, compare, and act on, etc." Okay. So now you've got a comment. Do you literally go and copy

[11:19] and paste it in there? Can you please go ahead and post all the comments? That looks good to me. You just speak it into it. Okay, and it's doing it. And it's going to go using that system that you told me earlier. What was the tool that you said to use? Unifile. Unifile, yeah. So, it will sometimes give me errors because the way I'm using

[11:38] all but it will still work. If I do it like one or two times, it will work then. Because see, I am actually using cloud code to pay for all of this. Okay. I'm not using an Anthropic API key. Because cloud When you say cloud code to pay Okay, you've got some kind of connection to be able to use your cloud

[11:58] subscription. Yeah, so basically I will can just like it has forgotten because okay, now it is typing if you see. Now it is doing stuff at the bottom. It will take some time and do all the stuff. Okay, it's doing it all. Um here, you also said look, if senior leadership at a company where that you want to work with is interacting with your post, it catches it and then it it will do what to you? So, first of all, it's looking at all your comments and then it's saying look, he doesn't need to know about some random person who responded, but boss needs to know that

[12:34] someone who's an ICP and a senior level has commented on a post, we got to get a response in. Okay, got it. And so, it's it because it's looking at every single person, seeing what they are, all using the API. Yep. How many of these requests can you make before you get kicked off of LinkedIn or

[12:50] before you you exhaust the system? Go like insane, maybe like do like 20 to like 30 20. If you're maintaining a pattern, then LinkedIn is okay. You can't do like 200, 300 in a day. Okay. No, that also doesn't make sense. Maybe like I I usually do like five comments in a day. Okay. And maybe like 20 to 30 requests in a

[13:13] day to for connections. doing requests for connections on your behalf. Yeah, it can do that. Okay. Wow. All right, I love this. Let's go on to the next one. All right, so now so far we've looked at one part of your business. You've got a marketplace, right? You want to know seller outreach. You You want to do seller outreach, meaning get people who have APIs to put their stuff on your marketplace. What made you smile right there? What

[13:33] happened? Yeah, I know that that's interesting. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, now this is your other No, tell me what you saw. This is your other agent, the outreach agent. So, this is the seller outreach agent. What it does it basically we want to have a lot of sellers on API market, right? And before we have to go out and find them and convince them, "Hey, why

[13:52] don't you sell on API market as well?" Wait, let me say API market. Isn't it API.market place? API.market, that's it. Oh, okay. I've been saying it wrong. All right, API.market. All right, so you want them to come and list on API.market, okay. Yeah. So, here it does a lot of like seller outreach. So, basically we'll start sending emails, "Hey, why don't why

[14:09] don't you are selling somewhere else? Why don't you come on API market as well?" Okay. And it does web search by itself. It finds if we have sent them email or not before. And then this one I am using instantly to basically schedule my email so that uh What is instantly? So, I'll show you that as well.

[14:30] It's like Apollo. And what it is is basically a way to send emails. Like you can warm up your emails. It can do sequences, all those kind of Oh, okay. Apollo is largely for getting contact information on people and and and that. This does that and sends messages out but also makes sure that

[14:48] you're not getting caught as a spammer. Yes, exactly. So, I can schedule and paste it so I can like ask my I ask my Open Cloud agents to like put stuff here in Instantly. And this is instantly.ai, okay. Uh ramp up. So, right now I'm sending maybe like five emails in a day. It's going to ramp up slowly over time and we're going to make it to like maybe 50

[15:09] emails a day as well in the future. Okay. All right, this is great. We're going to have a list of all the tools below. Um Okay. Yeah, it uses Apollo to get the leads cuz Apollo has better data and then puts them here and drafts the shed like drafts the emails and everything. One follow up two follow up three

[15:28] subject line all those kind of stuff. So it handles it all but you give it the input it gives you the output that's it. No no I don't do anything at all this is fully autonomous. No I mean your sorry should have said not you your your agent gives it the input your agent gets the output and says hey you know what I just got a human being who says they want to list

[15:46] at that point you come in and do it. No I it does everything by itself like I don't really have to be part of anything here. You don't even come in at that at that point say look there's someone who wants to sell my marketplace no okay I just saw the look that you gave me to blow

[15:58] that off. Yeah the person replies and it basically sends them like documentation and other stuff that they need to look at that's it. attitude wise this is what I'm getting a lot of clear specific things that you're doing but I also like your attitude the way that you just blew it off when it's when I'm like at that point you come in you're like no I'm almost disgusted that you would say it I'm running a zero human company almost where I Andrew want to get my hands in everything okay. So that's one part that I'm getting from you the other thing is do you know how

[16:24] in my head I am that I said API.marketplace and it's because I have something here that's running it's granola that for some reason listed you that way and now I think I don't trust my software at all I should never trust the AI I should come back you don't have that you're like screw it it's going to make mistakes it's going to send a podcaster a message that sounds like AI slop or that makes me look less than perfect I can't be that precious move on. And that's another attitude I'm getting from you okay all right you're going to show me something else or should I go on to

[16:54] my next item on the list. I think let's go to the next item on the list. Okay next item on the list is something you're not going to show publicly but you showed me before we got started which is your CFO you just describe it wait don't click anything so that I would have oh yeah you can click on your website don't click anything that you're going to make me edit out

[17:09] intentionally. You can you can go to your site just describe what does the CFO do? Yeah so see when you are I am a numbers guy. I constantly want to know how much sales I'm doing, what is my forecast, and different kind of scenarios I can have, what I need to pay attention to, who's churning. All those There's

[17:29] [snorts] so many things in there, right? So, I'm like I need to basically I have an agent called as finance agent. What it does, it basically is connected to my stripe Mhm. to my database. And I've basically asked it to learn skills on how to do mathematical analysis for forecast. So, I asked Claude, "Hey, this is my agent. Please go and teach it all the skills it needs to know to create me

[17:55] really, really good financial reports." How Wait, how is Claude interacting with your agent? Okay, so I got something called a small VM on Hetzner. I pay five bucks a month, that's it. Okay. Hetzner, h e t z n e r, it's like a good You can use Hetzner, you can use Linode, you can use Digital Ocean. Anybody is

[18:12] fine. But wait, what's the the connection between Claude and Open Claude? I don't understand. Oh, yeah. It's a basically SSH. So, Open Claude, I gave it like a full SSH command. Uh-huh. And now, Open Claude can connect to my VM like the files and everything and connect to everything. But then Claude, how is Claude connecting? And maybe I'm maybe this is

[18:34] beyond what I understand. How is Claude How is your Claude like the app I'm assuming that you mean is on your desktop? Or do you mean in Cursor? What type of Claude is interacting with it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, on my desktop, on my laptop. You mean like the Claude app? You chat with the Claude app, it connects to Claude, but it connects to Open Claude how? How does it even send messages to

[18:54] Open Claude? I have two windows. Here is no idea you could do that. right now. Yeah, so okay. If you see my screen right now, this is Open Claude. Right? Yes. Wait, this is Open Claude because it's terminal. This is Cursor Cursor. connected to my Open Claude. How do you connect cursor into your open

[19:13] cloud? Using the SSH, right? When you have a VM on the cloud, right? You can SSH into it. I see and it is doing that right whole command to this one. Okay, I had no idea. I didn't even think to make that connection. I'm going to be honest with you and say I don't fully understand it, but I'm going to now go over to my agent and I'm going to say, "When I'm chatting with all these different tools, I want to be able to have them send messages to you. Tell me how." and it'll tell me how. I'm going

[19:36] to do that. over here, right? All the five agents verified working, seller outreach, and so on. [snorts] Yeah, so this is I use to fix the code, updated, do different kind of stuff. Okay, uh one more thing you were saying um and you can now go back into your What are we going to show? Oh, I know. Uh we're going to show the hiring manager next for one of your other businesses. So, that's that's going to be again in Discord. Um but just to close off the financing CFO part, it it will go into Stripe you said and a database. Database of what and why do

[20:07] you need another database? No, this is API market, right? The whole company has like a database right of all the 13,000 users we have on API market and what they're buying. need the number of users for the finance for the CFO? Yeah, because I need to figure out who is going to churn, what each seller is doing, what do I need to pay attention Got it. So, it's not just looking at how much money you made last month cuz that's backwards looking. It's looking for leading indicators to understand where you're going to be next month like a proper CFO. Okay, all right. I love

[20:38] the chart that you showed me before. worry. [snorts] Next 10 years. multiple forecasts for different kind of things. So, if like if there's a seller who's doing really well on API market, it literally will go and say, "Hey, we need to talk to this guy." and it will draft a email in my Gmail.

[20:55] Okay. And tell me And that the CFO the CFO won't send messages. The CFO needs you to actually check it because this is an important function. Okay. and people, right? huh. I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, because these are very important people. I don't want to make a mistake and there so I'm like, "Hey, uh so basically some seller who's like really up and bringing. So it says, "Hey, the founder should talk to that

[21:17] guy." And he says, "Hey, Shashank, this is so I ask as myself, "Hey, welcome them. Hey, welcome to a fair market. You're doing really well. Let me know if you need anything, any help or something." And they reply then I connect them to my marketing team. Okay, I'm going to do a quick introduction to you. You've to give me so many tools. I'm going to tell you about the one that I love which is Zapier MCP. They are my sponsor but here's a beauty about it. You and I have both have heard people who had their agents have a lot of power and then they screwed it up, sent a lot of messages by

[21:42] accident, got access to something and accidentally deleted it or moved it out. For me, they deleted my whole freaking notion setup and there was no way to bring it back even from the archive. So what I learned since then is certain things I'm okay with it having full access cuz who cares if it gets deleted? Things that are important, I want to use Zapier MCP. Beauty of Zapier MCP is I have one toolbox essentially. You go in to Zapier and you say, "I want to give it Gmail. I want to give it Calendly. I want to give my agent this, that, and so on." What I

[22:06] what I don't want is give it full control of all those tools. I select using simple checkboxes the aspects of all those tools that I want to give access to. I put them all in my toolbox and then when I sign up for Hermes agent because people are telling me stop using OpenClaw, go use Hermes agent or whatever else the new thing is, I just bring my toolbox and it has access to everything. One connection has access to it all. That's the beauty of using Zapier MCP. You can go right now, get it

[22:30] for free at zapier.com/mcp. And now we can move on to you telling me we've got two more things. So teach me. Let's look at how you use your hiring manager and what's a hiring manager for. Yeah, so people apply for jobs, right? For the for the various companies that I am running right now.

[22:49] Mhm. And then basically, okay, there's a lot let me just find the some interesting ones. So people apply, they give their entire resume PDF and everything. Mhm. And so what my agent does, it goes out and checks all the links. If they have provided GitHub, it goes and checks out, okay, what kind of code they write, what is the quality. If they LinkedIn and what they have done before, and does everything and then tries to verify and match if you can hire that person or

[23:13] not. Got it. And then it says to you, "Take a look, I think this is a good person." Like who? Yeah, like here, right? Top AI pick. He says, "Hey, he's he actually went out to GitHub, checked all the repos." Mhm. Right? Agent infrastructure, not ML coursework, and like they have done these three projects and then other things and saying, "Hey, this is a

[23:34] strong hire." Production signals beat the field two, AI agents equals production, Docker eight out of 10, and so on and so forth. Got it. Okay, excellent. Last item is Trello. Why using Trello at all to manage it all? Okay, so so many agents doing so many stuff, so much stuff, right? All the time. Right? So I built this agent called Chief of Staff. What it does, it basically it keeps track of all the other agents, what they are doing. So if you see every agent has a name. Like Nova is the investor outreach, Jordan is the seller outreach, all those kind of agents, and creates tasks and put all

[24:08] the files in my Trello. Okay. If I go to Trello, [snorts] right? Then I can see everything, like what my agents are doing. This is my API market, my investor outreach, my all the So I started following your lead on this ever since you and I talked a few days ago. The thing that I find is there's hardly ever anything in the process in process column because they just handle

[24:32] it immediately. Yeah. What could What could be in the in process column then? Yeah, so like something that needs my input. That's in the review column. Uh no, in review is it's done. Okay, got it. So for you, in progress means they've done a thing, hey, they need you or they need some input. They're basically stuck until someone

[24:52] moves them forward. Yeah, and there could be tasks for me as well. Why is review done if you also have a done done column? No, review is like I want to know uh So, the agent can never move anything to the done column. They put in the review. I move everything to done. Got it. It's not fully done until you've gone over and said, "Okay, I see they

[25:10] did this. I see they did that." Got it. Got it. And they attach all the artifacts and all the files like here. Yeah, what I like about Trello is you can have other files in there very easily. Can And it can read your comments, right? I'm using Notion cuz I live in Notion. It can't read comments, and that's annoying as hell. I think it can, actually. I said create a create a task for me in in uh in our board so that I could figure out how to get comments. And as soon as I said that, I got disgusted cuz now I've

[25:38] got to go figure this out. Yeah. You should try it. so I That's why I like Trello. It can basically gives me an overview of everything. Okay. But again, there can be some like caveats at times. Sometimes some weird stuff happens. Like this I really like the one thing which is just like attachments because my open claw is in the cloud, right? It's in a VM. And next thing you know, the file that it's

[26:01] creating. And I don't want it to keep sending me the files in Discord because they'll get lost. Right. Right. So, what it does, it basically creates and it keeps adding different kind of comments. And attaches the The file attachment is the main thing that I wanted basically for. Okay, I get that. That is actually a really nice thing. It's creating the markdown files. Does it ever go back and look at them? No. If it needs to, it will put it into wherever to the the the knowledge base that you've created for

[26:27] it. Yeah, like uh we have different kind of CRMs, right? If you that you saw that manage all those things. So, they share that with me. And anyway, I can even have them on uh Google Drive as well. By the way, does Gog also come with Google Drive access? Yeah. Yes. Oh, that's even nice, too.

[26:44] Yep. Okay, I think I've seen it all. Can we just see API market? What Now that you know what my interests are, what are some of the APIs that I should be paying attention to on the marketplace as someone who's using agents? You need to basically go here, API on market, and um MTC? Flash memory and literally just add it to your own thing. So, basically, you just add one gateway, and then you don't have pick and choose because you get access to

[27:12] every API in your agent. And as you can figure out I ask for it, it will then start to trigger it. Yes, exactly. They're like thousands of tools over here. And then how do I start paying? It'll bring me back into the software? Like, oh, do I pay you and then you pay them?

[27:30] Yes. Oh, I see. So, I don't even need an account with all those different API providers. Got it. You're metering it. I then say to my agent, "What do I need?" It says, "You need this thing." And then we've got it here, and by the way, it's all part of your subscription. Ah, I got it. Okay, I see. So, it's not like a referral and then go sign up somewhere else or get the code. It's one one

[27:49] connection for everything. Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Hell yeah. All right. Sounds good. Thank you so much for doing this. I get I get lit up by this. There's very few things that you can go and and learn and then do and then get immediate re- results in your life, and this is one of them.

[28:07] All right. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, everyone. Now that this interview is done, two things. Number one, you're going to want to get some water or maybe I will. Maybe I'll take a shower cuz I'm obviously so freaking lit up that I'm sweating and energized from this. And number two, I've got a video for you to watch right next under here that I think

[28:20] is going to be a good follow-up to this. Show It's actually it's going to show everyone how to use Hermes agent in get more out of Hermes agent, so more use cases.

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