# This AI Agent creates 1000+ SEO Pages in 52 min (Claude + MCP + Cursor)

Channel: Greg Isenberg
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSDZwpgfRE
Duration: 52 min
Language: English
Words: 8746
Transcript page: https://viewrankai.com/tools/youtube-transcript/DxSDZwpgfRE

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[0:00] Anyone could become a developer with AI. There's a bunch of tools that you can cobble together with Cursor, Claude, and a few others. And we go through how a non-technical person uh in 3 weeks is now building apps that are getting thousands of visits every single month. I think a lot of people have avoided Cursor because it's pretty daunting. But the upside of learning a tool like Cursor is totally worth it. And this is a comprehensive tutorial meant for non-technical people with the apps that they could build to help get thousands of customers uh for your startup. Uh watch this to the end uh because the

[0:43] people that do that I think are going to be extremely well equipped for for the future ahead of us. [Music] We got the boring marketer uh on the pod. He is leading the charge of automating marketing with AI. So, James, what are people going to get out of this episode if they stay to the end? Yeah. So, over the last 3 weeks, I've gone deep into Cursor and I want to show you exactly how I set it up to get things done. and I'm going to give you a super actionable workflow that uses MCPs and Claude code so that you can get more traffic to your website. Cool. Let's

[1:27] let's rock. All right. So, I'm going to share my screen and uh we're going to pull up cursor actually. All right. So, this looks pretty scary uh to a lot of people when they first open it up. It was really scary uh for me until I just started getting in here and and playing around. So uh what we have here on the right this is cursor's agent. So this is kind of like a a way to generate code a way to do research a way to chat uh in natural language so that you can build things so that you can understand sort of like uh what is possible and the

[2:07] agent can understand your codebase in great detail. So the way that I started with cursor um actually I had a a chat with a friend of mine named Amir. He kind of showed me how he was using cursor and I was like wow this is really cool I got to dig in and I got to learn more. So I started with uh cursor's agent. Um but what I found was that I was running into a lot of the problems that I had faced using other like vibe coding platforms. I would have a lot of bugs. I would have to sit there and go back and forth a ton

[2:39] and uh you know I was wasting a lot of time and I heard a lot of people talk about uh Claude Code and uh I installed Claude Code and uh what you can see down here is uh is a terminal um if you can see that at the bottom of my my cursor screen and you know you have a terminal on your uh on your desktop uh But there's a terminal within cursor. And since I don't really know much about terminal, I just decided to use this one. And um to the right I've got my cursor agent. Uh and down here I've got my terminal. Above the terminal I've got

[3:19] a little notepad so that I can like kind of plan out a project, just brainstorm and dump some thoughts. And on the left uh that's where all of like the files that include the code uh live. I'm not even going to go into those because I don't even look at them to be honest with you. Um, so my goal here today is to show you how I use cursor agent to do research and then we're going to use uh claude code to actually execute the plan and we're going to deploy it and we're going to see how it looks. Okay, so u let's start up claude code and uh you

[3:54] can see down at the bottom of the terminal I'm just typing claude. Um, if you go to like anything like chat GPT or go to claude and and you ask, hey, how do I install claude code in my terminal, it's really easy. It'll give you like one line. You copy and paste that into your terminal. You hit enter and then

[4:14] it'll ask you for your credentials. It'll give you a link. You click the link. You go to an anthropic website. You enter your credentials for Claude. Boom. You have Claude code in your terminal. It's really that simple. Um, if you want to get some insight around like what you can do with cloud code, you can just ask it. That's like how I've learned how to use it. A lot of people are like, "Hey, give me a tutorial for like how to use cloud code." The best way to use cloud code is to ask how to use cloud code. So, um, you know, that's what I'll do. Uh, so

[4:46] we'll start up cloud code. You can see it says welcome to cloud code. It gives me a couple little instructions. Uh, asks, you know, do do help for help, status for status. So, if you just click this uh this slash, you can see a lot of different uh options here. Um I don't even mess with any of this to be honest with you. Um I actually just found out about this as someone was asking me about Claude's planning feature. Um so, okay, some people ask me before we get started like why do you use Claude code instead of just doing everything in cursor agent? I've been asked that on X

[5:21] a ton. And the simple answer is I find that cloud code is much more successful at getting me to a working completed project. And the reason is because a I believe that claude code has a lot more context on the files that it's building and my sort of complete file structure within cursor. And B, it does a really good job at planning out its tasks. It's very logical. It's very streamlined. and you can follow along and understand

[5:53] exactly what it's doing the whole way. Now, throughout those tasks, it's going to give you updates. You're going to have these little like check marks so that you can see exactly what it's doing. You can ask it to stop at any time if you want. And then it will confirm with you if you actually want to uh to push something live or to create something. Real quick, I need to tell you about something that's helping me sleep better at night as an entrepreneur. I was running multiple companies with money scattered everywhere, zero spending visibility and making growth decisions pretty blind. I knew there had to be a better way. And

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[7:01] it's been a total gamecher. I'm loving Brex so much I reached out to them and asked them to sponsor the pod. Start sleeping better. Your financial OS is waiting. Brex is giving SIP listeners $7,500 in perks at brex.com/sip. Now, there's two other sort of scary things that I have set up here that I just want to clarify with people as well. Um, after I create a project, I deploy it on Versell. Now, uh, Verscell is like a complete sort of web app and website deployment infrastructure. So it'll host, it'll make sure it's fast, it'll make sure it's optimized, and it makes it really easy to do it right from

[7:49] cloud code. So it's a similar process to install that in your terminal uh as installing cloud code. Go to an LLM, say, "Hey, hey, how can I deploy on Versell with Cloud Code from my terminal?" It'll give you a little code snippet. Boom. It'll install uh the package, and then you can sign up for an account, link up your credentials. It's a pretty straightforward process. So, that's my setup. All right. Are you ready to get into some fun stuff,

[8:17] dude? You got me fired up. Absolutely. All right. Cool. And, you know, so far, uh, again, I started this 3 weeks ago and my goal was to go as deep as possible as I could into all this so that I could essentially try to become a developer. And so far, like yesterday, I launched a uh a keyword research app. I uh put the public repo out on X so people can download the code and use it and create their own variations. So uh I'm actually like contributing which feels kind of cool to the development world uh as a totally non-technical boring uh marketing guy. All right, so

[8:57] uh what I want to do I want to show you one of my favorite Vibe marketing use cases for how you can like implement this whole stack. And I mentioned MCPs and I know that you've had a lot of guests on to talk about MCPs and the audience is probably a bit familiar with those at this point. So I'm not going to go into great detail with that. To set up an MCP, I just ask Cursor agent how to do it. Like it's it's literally that simple. There's no secrets. If you've never set up an MCP before, say, "Hey, cursor agent, I've never set up an MCP

[9:28] before. Help me get started." Okay? Then it'll go and look for MCPs that you can install. Start with a really really simple and basic one. Uh you can start with firecrawl. You can start with perplexity. 90% of the MCP uses that I'm doing are with firecrawl or perplexity. All right. So, uh let's go. So, um the goal of what we're going to build today is I want to build a bunch of pages on the vibearketer.com um that are going to go and rank for search terms. uh that this could be Google searches. This could be people searching for information in chat GPT, whatever. Um, so we're going to go and

[10:09] find keywords that are relevant to my business. We're going to have Claude Code build up a page and then we're going to look at the page. We're going to see how we like it. Uh, you know, you're a lot better at design than me. I suck at design, so maybe you have some ideas for how we can improve the page. We'll work with Claude Code to make some edits. And uh if we like it, we can spin up more pages or we can go deeper and optimize that page a little bit. So the first thing that uh that I would do is I would come here and I would just start

[10:42] vibing with cursor agent using some MCPS. So, uh let's let's just say um use the firecrawl mcp to uh scrape the vibearketer.com and create a MD. So, this is a markdown file. This is just a text file that it's going to create for me. Kind of like a Google doc with a complete summary. All right. So, uh, I entered that prompt. And what's happening is, uh, the cursor agent is telling me, hey, I'm going to go and use Firecrawl, uh, to scrape the website. So, it's going to go and it's going to look at everything on the site. It's going to look at the

[11:28] text. It's going to look at the images. It's going to look at all of that stuff. So, you can see that it's calling these tools uh, in the background. It already scraped the site. It's not a very big site. And now it's creating a comprehensive markdown summary file. So it's just consolidating all of that information into a document. Make sense so far? Yeah. And the way to think about Firecrawl is it is it just to think about it as a scraper? Yeah. It's

[11:56] basically a a really great scraper. That's how I use it. They've got some other like features and things that they're building and deploying, but I use it as just a scraper. So um here we go. We've got the results of using the firecrawl MCP. Um, and again, the beautiful thing about these MCPs within cursor is that I can execute a fire crawl scrape with natural language. I can just say, hey, go use this and do this with it. And then it gives me a document that's now within my development environment. Okay. Now, when I want to do something with this information, I can just reference this

[12:36] document to Claude Code or to cursor agent and it'll have context on everything that's on the Vibe Marketer website. All right. So, um, cool. It's got some uh key statistics. It, uh, it it got my core offering here, uh, main features, uh, etc. Okay. So, now that we have some information uh about the website, um we're going to go and uh and find some relevant keywords uh that I can go and try to create content or web pages around so that I can rank for those. All right. So, the next thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to use the Perplexity MCP. Uh Perplexity, I I know you just

[13:21] did a video on Perplexity. They're absolutely on fire. Uh, I love their uh their API and their MCP. Uh, I use it for all kinds of research and I'm always amazed at like what it can do when it returns me results. So, um, let's see. Now, use the perplexity MCP um to find relevant um, programmatic

[13:49] keyword ideas for my business. Okay. Now, before I hit enter on that, what's programmatic keyword ideas? So, keywords are just things that people search for. All right, programmatic keyword ideas. If you think about like Zapier, they're like a great use case for programmatic uh SEO or whatever. They've got like tons and tons of web pages for all these really like uh longtail or specific search terms like how do I connect uh Slack to Google Docs or something like that? And they've got a web page for each and every one of those search terms. All right, so maybe they've got a

[14:29] hundred,000 pages. I don't really know. I don't need 100,000 pages, but it'd be cool if I had a thousand pages. And it'd be cool if out of those thousand pages, they each got 20 visitors a month because they were targeted to keywords. And it'd be even cooler if I could execute that entire strategy right here in this development environment. And then within a few months, I was getting 20,000 visitors a month organically to my website. That's the goal. That would be cool. Yes. So, let's uh let's see if we can make it happen. All right. So, uh we're going to use the Perplexity MCP to find relevant programmatic keyword ideas

[15:07] for my business. So, I'm finding keyword ideas and uh these are also known as as seed keywords. I haven't actually gone out and done the keyword research yet. I'm just trying to get Perplexity to come up with some concepts and some ideas for this programmatic approach. All right. And one quick thing is I noticed you're

[15:28] using claude for Opus Max in the agent. Is there any thinking behind that? Um I always like so I'm I'm always trying to use the best model that I can and for this purpose here it's probably way too much. It's probably overkill. Typically Opus Max is more expensive and uh it's for like really complex things. Um, but I just have it here to make sure that I can get some like good insights and good results for uh for the viewers and the listeners. That being said, if you're getting if this is going to help you get 20,000 visitors a month on autopilot, is it not worth it? Yeah, a few extra bucks

[16:12] uh to use the best model is totally worth it. um especially kind of in this planning phase and you know a lot of people gloss over this part of vibe coding or vibe marketing uh the planning and the research step. Everyone wants to get to like the sexy workflow or the sexy like output but really like uh the magic is in knowing what you're actually like focusing on and putting all these efforts towards. So, I spend actually a lot of time just kind of like planning this stuff out, doing the research, calling these MCP tools, building these like strategy documents, which we'll get a little bit deeper into uh down the

[16:54] line. So, Perplexity is working right now. Uh let's uh let's see what's happening. All right, cool. So, it uh it called the tool and uh if you haven't worked with these tools, sometimes they do take a little bit of time. Totally natural. Sometimes they get stuck in like an AI loop and you have to just like stop stop it and and try again. So, uh looks like it's uh

[17:21] it's doing its job though. I mean, even human beings get caught in a loop sometimes. Oh, yeah. We get caught in a vibe loop. We're just we're just in these tools and using AI and not understanding what's going on in the real world. At least that's been me for like the last three weeks. I've been in a vibe loop. All

[17:44] right. Vibe vortex. Yep. A vibe vortex. It's so crazy because this is something that you would spend thousands of dollars on with an SEO agency. Exactly. I've I've spent thousands of dollars on this before in the past. Yeah. Yeah. It's even starting to generate code for how we can do this. Okay. So, uh, now we have some relevant programmatic keyword opportunities and yeah, as you said, Greg, like to find these, typically it would either take you an absolute like ton of time to go into, you know, whatever like clunky SAS tools are out there that you have to go through and dig for these types of keywords. Uh not

[18:26] only that, you have to think about the strategy and you know which ones are relevant and and stuff like that. So um the my favorite one that I see here is like AI tool comparisons. I think that that would be a really solid one u with all the tools that are coming out and stuff. There's a lot of search volume out there uh for people uh comparing and

[18:46] contrasting uh these different things. So, let's uh do AI tool comparisons for marketing. So, I'm just going to follow up here. See what it says. It's using perplexity again. Um so, you know, as as I've talked about and as you've also talked about, um you know, the best way to work with AI, it's not like a one

[19:12] shot like you have to go back and forth. You have to reprompt you know you have to kind of understand what's coming back. if that sort of fits uh what you're looking for. And it takes a little bit of back and forth and a little bit of work to get what you want. It's almost a mistake to one prompt and accept what the answer is. Yeah. It's more like a conversation. And you know, people that create these like super complex prompts that say like use this prompt to do this. It's like that's not really how most people or really anyone that I know of that uses AI really well

[19:45] is is doing it. Um, so we have this. Uh, now, um, I want you to use the data for SEO MCP to research our keywords and give me an idea of the potential search volume of our approach. So, it's already found a bunch of like relevant AI marketing tools. Um, we're going to go out there and uh and get some keyword research done. Uh, I have another MCP here. Um, let's see that I'm trying to use called data for SEO. And the way that I like validate these keywords and I get specific numbers and metrics from them is by using that MCP. So it's pretty cheap. I don't have to log into like

[20:43] overwhelming SAS tools. I can do keyword research right here with AI assistance. And really I don't have to be an expert on, you know, search and and all that stuff to do this. All right. So you can see those head-to-head comparisons, right? Yeah. So it went out and it found that uh you know if we look at like I don't know HubSpot versus Zapier or Synesthesia versus Haze Genen or Jasper versus Chat GBT those things are getting search volume. So um the head-to-head comparisons uh 20 tools times 20 tools uh with 10 different use cases that's 4,000 combinations. Average volume per keyword 200 to 500 per month. Total

[21:33] potential uh search traffic 800 to two million searches a month. So that's a ton of traffic. Uh I can get super dialed in and and specific that's probably got some pretty broad and competitive uh stuff in there, but um I'm just going to like uh develop a plan so that we can we can actually start building. All right. So um cool. Uh, now I want you to create a PRD that I can use to build my first programmatic page template based on this

[22:13] strategy. Use the information that you've gathered to prioritize a tool comparisons, b relevant tools to the vibearketer.com, and c a high priority keyword that we can create solid content around. So PRD is short for product requirement document. So why you why you doing this at this stage? So, why I'm doing this here is because I just want to like get all the context of the research steps that we've done into one clear uh list of actions that we're going to go and provide cla

[23:17] right now. So, I'm taking advantage of that so that I can just kind of consolidate and arrive at like a clear final plan. Yeah. I think if you what I've noticed is if you don't create a PRD, the output ends up being worse, like very diluted. Yeah. So, what's cool about the PRD is you you can kind of

[23:39] like drip feed context. And because of that, because of how tight the the drip feeding is, you end up getting better results. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It creates a super structured path uh for like an agent or an LLM to follow and it's going to prevent you from having to like, you know, go and get artifacts and and different documents and other things and, you know, go back and reference those again, have a bunch of other chats going on. So, uh here we go. Um, we've got a PRD

[24:14] and, um, let's take a quick look at it. Um, it has provided us, uh, an overview, the objectives, um, success metrics. So, our goal here is 10,000 organic visits a month within 90 days. That sounds pretty cool. Uh, it even developed a persona. Um, it went into user intent analysis. So it actually looks at keywords and tries to understand uh if these keywords have intent behind them and people are actually interested in the topic and want to buy something. Um so uh for this uh use case um let's go ahead and do video and creative tools tier three. All right. So, what I'm going to do is I am going to fire up

[25:03] Claude Code over here. And uh what I'm going to do is say, "Hey, uh we have a new project to work on for the Vibe Marketer production website. Um, so I've got a folder over here under that cursor vibe in the upper uh lefthand corner. And I'm not going to open up all of my different project folders and stuff like that. I

[25:30] know what folder my website is in. There's a bunch of code in there. Again, I don't even know what all of it does, but I know that it's all contained there, and I want Claude to know that we're working on that specific project. So, uh, let's let it know. So, we have a new project to work on.

[25:50] Let's fire them up. So, what it's doing now is it's going through that folder. It's looking at all the files. Uh it's understanding like you know what it's all about, how the website's designed, how it looks, stuff like that. So, um we're sort of focused on the right thing together. And then it says here are some possibilities of what we can do, but I want to work on this strategy that uh that we created with cursor agent and with these MCPS. So, I'm going to say find the uh programmatic SEO comparison PRD

[26:30] file in our environment. That is our project. Okay. And here is that document. And uh Claude is going to search uh my file system here. And it already found the file. Now it's reading through all the information, the goals, the objectives, how we want to go about this, the example keywords, and all of that. So, it found the PRD. And the next thing that Claude Code does after it understands our project and what we're trying to work on now, it's going to map out a plan. So, it created a to-do list right here. So, it's going to set up a project structure. It's going to create

[27:09] the data structure for the tool comparisons. It's going to build uh page templates so that if we want to create a bunch of these, it can do that in a very consistent way. It's going to create the initial tool data for chat GPT versus claude comparison. It's going to build an interactive comparison table and pricing calculator. It's going to implement email capture and community CTA components, which are the main sort of calls to action that I currently have on the vibearketer.com. And then it's going to add an FAQ section with schema markup. All right, cool. So, um, it's saying, "I see your project. This is an

[27:46] excellent strategy to capture traffic based on the PRD. Should I start building this or integrate it into your existing uh, production site?" So, I want this to be within my production site. And, uh, it should start getting to work here relatively quickly. So, let's see what uh, what Cloud Code does next. And if we take a step back here, you're

[28:14] literally coding right now. Yes. Right. Yes. Yeah. Like I am just building and coding with prompts and I don't really know what's happening. Um, but I'm following along and like at this point after 3 weeks of of being in a in a vibe vortex. Um, I am starting to understand like how all this fits together and and

[28:40] how it works and and stuff like that. When I first logged into all this, I was like completely overwhelmed. I was like, I am never going to have figure this out. like but you know it's it's just that initial like week or so and it's it's getting momentum and it's going into this platform and taking some small actions like every day and uh you know I I said on X like hey I'm just going to learn this in public and I'm going to share like what I'm building and that helped me develop a little bit of like accountability around doing it and getting in there and uh that's what I

[29:12] did but yeah I'm literally coding right now uh or Claude Code is actually coding Um, but uh, yeah, that's that's how my process has gone so far. And what's the what's the upside for someone to actually learn this? Yeah. I mean, it's it's really limitless to be honest with you. Like what I'm seeing is that there's sort of this like convergence happening uh, between like a VI marketer like like me and like a developer, like a full-blown developer. And I think that like cursor and claude code and these tools make the uh ability of like a developer accessible to anyone who's willing to get in here and mess around

[29:58] and tinker and get over that initial like uncomfortable phase. And um my friend Amir who I chatted with about this and he kind of introduced me to cursor said that like he can see that cursor could be like an interface for everything. And I'm starting to see that uh here as well. I mean you can create content, you can create web pages, you can do research, you can actually implement all of that stuff uh yourself, you know. So, it's not like you're going into uh an inate in innate in workflow and you're spending like hours setting this thing up and it's spitting out like a Google sheet and then you have to

[30:38] figure out what the hell do I do with that? It's like everything that you're producing here is extremely actionable that cloud code can go and implement on your website in an app as a new project whatever. So it's like a very closed loop environment uh where you can go from insight uh to action extremely quickly. So right now I'm seeing tons of you know people come up coming up with NA to end workflows like especially on X and LinkedIn they're like comment NADN to get the N workflow. Are you saying that cursor in a lot of ways is just a more powerful version of NAN? If you

[31:18] think about inad um you know you're going and doing essentially a lot of this what you're seeing claude code do manually. You're you're mapping out the logic and then um you are figuring out how to set up a system that executes your goal. So you're selecting these different sort of like actions that are going to happen. Hey, I want to use this to go get this data. Then I'm gonna have

[31:45] to format that data in the right way. Then I'm gonna have to pass it over to this tool and make sure that's set up right. Then I'm gonna have to figure out where all this is going. Then I'm gonna have to maintain that system and understand like where bugs are happening and all that stuff. It's a very inefficient way to build a workflow in my view after I've really gotten into here and figured out the power of like cloud code and cursor. Any innate end workflow can build a can be a micro app or a micro

[32:14] tool that you can build with cloud code. And what are the benefits of that? Well, the benefits of that are that you could have a clean user interface that anyone can access the power of your tool or your workflow. Can't really do that within very easily. Um, you can make edits very fast uh without having to go into each individual node and figure out what the problems are and how to debug it. It's a lot simpler. It's a lot faster. It's a lot more streamlined. Um, I did a comparison yesterday. Uh, I tried to build a keyword research workflow in in my process was I came

[32:50] into cloud code. I said, "Hey, build me an inadn workflow for this keyword research process." It went and read the inaden docs, all that stuff. It gave me a file to upload into into naden. By the way, this is how most of those like Twitter or X giveaways happen. people like go into an LLM and they create a file, they upload it onto Naden, it doesn't even work and they say, "Hey, I'm giving this away." That's the dirty secret about it. Um, and then, uh, so I got that into N in Naden and I tried to run it and it didn't work. Like it was all over the place. Um, I had to figure

[33:24] out how to debug all these different steps. After about an hour, I was like, you know what, I'm not doing this. Then I I went back to Cloud Code and I said, hey, this process that I want to accomplish, build it as an app. In 30 minutes, I had a fully functioning app. I published it uh to a production site. It's live on GitHub. People can go and download all the code and it works perfectly. So, it was way easier. And through the whole process, I'm just using natural language. I don't have to know how to use Naden. You know, I can just come in here and talk back and

[33:54] forth with with cloud code and get to where I want to go. with the caveat of you have to get over the hump of understand like this is pretty jarring for someone who doesn't understand code but like once you're in it like like you said right it took you a couple weeks of being like okay I understand what's happening here yeah yeah it takes a couple weeks to like get comfortable in here it feels very foreign um you know this terminal aspect is a little bit scary uh before I found cloud code I was just using cursor agent and I wasn't wasn't even messing with the terminal,

[34:30] but Claude Code lives in the terminal. Um, and uh, really claude code turns your terminal into sort of a chatbased interface. So, you don't have to know what it's doing. You just have to know like what to ask it and uh, and and things of that nature, you know. And as you do this, you'll start to understand sort of like, okay, this is kind of cool. Now I get like where these files are and how a project is structured and I'm I'm learning a little bit about code uh just watching Claude. Uh I think this is kind of like pair programming. You know, if you're like a beginner and

[35:04] you're paired up with like a senior engineer and you're working together back and forth like I'm learning how to do this with Claude code as kind of like my senior engineer and I'm like the intern just kind of like learning as we chat and learning as we go. You're not even the intern. You're like you you're like up you're you're going to computer

[35:25] science school next year, you know? Yeah. Um you're just asking the questions. Yep. Yep. So, um just to get an update on uh our to-do list here, it's already moved through a bunch of items. Uh right now it's building an interactive comparison table and pricing calculator between uh Claude and Chat GPT. That's kind of cool. I don't know what that means, but we're going to check it out once we uh once we push this live. Um, cool. But yeah, like uh just the learning process um of using this the development process, whatever you want to call it, I'm having way more fun in here than I ever had with any like

[36:06] nodebased kind of like workflow tool, you know? Totally. All right, we are uh we're still working here. The other thing that I want to point out, um, you know, if you've used like Vibe coding tools, something else that I find Claude Code is much better at, um, it just seems like way more detailed like uh, with the work. It's it's going and understanding like the code base on a on a deeper level in my opinion. Um, I could be wrong, but that's that's what I gather from just

[36:39] kind of watching what's happening here. Um, and then the other thing that's happened is like every time that I've used cloud code versus like off-the-shelf platforms, like you know, I'm spending an inordinate amount of time doing debugging uh when I try to vibe code on your typical tool. And uh, you know, this can essentially oneshot something for me uh, way way faster with far fewer errors, right? And like we talked about, it's not really a one shot, right? I'm still going back and forth. I'm I'm pulling up that page. I'm going to go look at it. I'm going to debug it. I'm going to tweak some

[37:14] things, you know, stuff like that. So, um, yeah. All right. Still building, but we're almost there. We're on the last task. Okay. So, uh, it's going to install some little like icons for us. Uh, while it's working, I just want to point out another thing that I did, uh, that people might find, uh, helpful. Um, so, um, our our friend Jordan built or designed the first, uh, the vibearketer.com landing page and it was in like a landing page builder and I realized, man, I can't do anything with it. Like, I can't even access this builder uh, from cursor and I was like, how can I get that design in cursor uh,

[37:59] so that I can work from it and I can move really fast and make updates to the site. So, I've never really used Figma before, but I I found the Figma file of the landing page. I went into dev mode, which I guess is how web developers are getting Figma files so that they can build websites. Um, I didn't want to do that. So, I installed a plugin called Anima. And allows me to select each layer of that Figma design and it creates code for each layer. Um, it uses Tailwind, which is a type of code. And, um, I just copy and paste the Tailwind code from each of those layers, um, into

[38:39] into cloud code. And, uh, it was able to use that information to a perfectly match, uh, the style and the brand. And I just have never been able to do that uh, using any other like SAS tools before. Yeah, I think that's cool because if you're building like an MVP for anything really, what do you need? You need a brand that's going to hit

[39:01] that's going to connect with people. Yep. And a design and you know, yes, you can use tools like cursor, vzero, bolt, lovable, but sometimes you might just want to hire a designer and designers do often work in Figma. Um, and the ability to just build it yourself and not have to rely on a developer, uh, for the whole solo founder who's trying to build, you know, the one-man business. I think that's really interesting. Huge unlock. And you remember back in the day how like as marketers, we'd have to go and bug the engineering team every time we wanted a landing page or an update or something like that, even for like the

[39:41] smallest things, and they would hate us, you know? Yeah. Well, now they're bugging us because they're like they need work to do. Yeah, exactly. Or they're like, "Hey, how can we uh how can we use some some VI marketing to get more customers or whatever." Yeah. All right. So, um it's doing all kinds of like analysis right now to see if there's any errors in the page and uh I think we're getting uh pretty close. You know, the other crazy thing that that I realized um within cloud code, and there's been a lot of like screenshots of this on X, there's a little cost command. So, you

[40:17] can you can type slashcost and you can see how much you're spending in in tokens on the on the platform. And uh someone commented the other day like on one of my tweets like, "Man, how much do you spend on all these tools and and uh and tokens and and stuff like that?" that and I was like, you know, that's that's a good question. I I actually don't know. I haven't looked. So, I I pulled up the cost this morning for for

[40:41] Cloud Code that that I've spent so far. And um to build uh like an app uh yesterday, it cost me like I don't know, 20 bucks. You know, I thought it was going to be I thought it was going to be a lot more, but like it's not as bad as you would think. Um the cool thing about cloud code here also is you can switch the model that it's using. So you can pick opus or uh you can let it run default which is sonnet and then it even uses like 35 haiku and 37 for some tasks too. So it will help to optimize your

[41:18] token usage based on the task difficulty. Um whereas in cursor agent if I just stayed on like max or whatever I'd spend a lot of money or u or whatever. Now cursor also has like an auto mode that will do a similar thing but again I just get better results with with cloud code. So it's just my preference. I mean two ways to think about that because I know that people in the comments are going to be like $20 an app that's crazy. Yeah. Number one if you wanted to learn how to code like I went to a university to go learn how to code. A university could cost a couple

[41:53] hundred thousand dollars minimum. Yeah. In the US for four years. So, you know, at at 10 prototypes at $20, that's $200, right? So, that's one. Number two is if you're building an MVP and the ROI, like you think that you're going to make more than $20, like there's there's real ROI there. Yeah. Yeah. From my perspective, it's like, okay, if I build a micro tool and I put it behind an email sign up or something like that and I spend 20 bucks to create that tool and I get a hundred emails from people that are interested in that, if I get one of those to go and

[42:34] buy an annual membership to the vibearketer.com community, that's $200 in revenue uh with $20 in spend. You know, that's a huge ROI. That's like 10 to one. Like no brainer, you know. Um, okay. So, uh, it looks like, um, it's completed, uh, the process here. Now, I'm just going to do something real quick just to show people like a thought process. Some people might be like, well, how the hell do I access the URL? Like, where is this thing? Um, cool. Where can I find a URL to check this out? I mean, you just have to ask. Even if it's a dumb question,

[43:18] you're not getting judged by by Claude. It's it's not going to say, "Man, you're an idiot." Like, at least not not at this point. All right, we're going to uh we're going to actually deploy this page and the development server and all of that. Um, again, I used I I've seen a lot of people talking about Versel. A lot of people use Netlefi. Um, Verscell looked cool to me. I went to like chatbt03 and I was like, "Hey, tell me the step-by-step plan for setting up Versell with cloud code in cursor so that I can deploy my projects uh easily and quickly." And that's it. Gives me

[44:01] some instructions or you can even do that within cloud code and it'll search the web and use all its functions to uh to help you do that as well. So it gives me a URL. Um, you know, for more advanced people, uh, you can hook that up to GitHub and it it automatically, uh, you know, creates different like uh, uh, deployments to your your code repository on GitHub and it gives you like a URL that you can get to, uh, to go and visit. Let's deploy this to

[44:31] our Verscell project. I'm sure that uh there's some uh developers out there that uh are like, "What the hell are you doing? Are you just pushing this live to production?" Whatever. Um I'm totally aware that I may not be doing this in the best way. Uh but I'm learning as I go and uh you know, I'm always open to to learn better ways to do it. Cool. So,

[44:59] right now it is deploying my project. Uh, so that it can be online and we can go and click around. Crazy. Yep. And if we like it, I'm just going to go and deploy a thousand pages today. I'm just kidding. Maybe. I mean, you could if you wanted. You absolutely could. Okay. So, wait, we have some live URLs. We've got some URLs. Yeah. So, uh, we're going to we're

[45:26] going to navigate to these here. Okay. So, this is the production site that I built. uh in cursor. Um it's much more than like, you know, a basic landing page. It's got the uh an email address and all that hooked up. This is not the one that we just did. Uh but it went ahead and gave me that link. Um it looks

[45:47] like it created an AI toolsh page. Wow. Okay. So, uh can you see this, Greg? Oh, yeah. All right. So, we've got a tools hub and uh think of this as kind of the the front page to your directory. Um, compare the best AI marketing tools side by side. Real test, community insights, and actionable recommendations from 2,000 plus marketers. Now, here are some amazing things. Uh, a like I didn't ask

[46:16] it to write any of that content. like it referenced the context in our landing page in our project and created that copy and I think that copy is pretty damn good uh for a first go. So real testing we test each tool for 30 days in real marketing workflows, community insights, real feedback, vibe test, our unique scoring system for marketing specific use cases. I actually love this and I think we should push this like generally speaking all over the place. Yeah. Um, so let's scroll down. So we've got uh popular comparisons. And if you remember, we started with uh Claude V versus Chat GPT. That was the only one we wanted to

[47:00] do because we wanted to see uh what we could even come up with. So um view full comparison. Um so the complete 2025 comparison for marketers. Now couple things I'm noticing as I look at this page. Um 2025 it's relevant. It's timely. right now. Which one should I use today? This is a good signal to search engines and LLMs that I've got recent and valuable information. So, we tested both AI tools for 30 days. Here's our comprehensive comparison. Here's the other amazing thing about this is that, you know, like we've talked about before, LLMs and search engines are prioritizing userenerated content and reviews. We're implementing that idea

[47:42] right here with this community reviews angle, which is going to make our page stand out as these crawlers are going out and looking for relevant information. So, um, we've got a comparison table of both of the tools, pricing, uh, what it's best for for marketing use cases, our rating. This is actually correct. Long form content, in-depth market analysis, Claude excels, uh, which is awesome. Key takeaways,

[48:06] TLDDR. Um, see what our community says. Uh we have a pricing calculator like if I wanted to launch these tools within my team uh what's that look like uh for me the vibe test uh it's got you know real examples from the tests and things like that community insights and poll results top community discussions again this is all like literal gold for ranking in the search engines um we've got calls to action throughout the page again I didn't ask claude code to do that it's smart enough to know that this page is a strategy to get more customers for us

[48:42] and then it has other recommendations. So, um you can do alternative comparisons to lead you to the next page. This has internal linking and another other a bunch of other valuable things for uh going and getting traffic. Then it's got FAQs. Uh still have a question. Boom. Even created a uh example for a free guide here that we could use as a lead magnet, which I think is incredible. And this page looks

[49:08] really good for a first go. 100%. Also, some of these tools would give you an affiliate cut. Yep. Right. So, if you actually launch something like this, this could just be like passive income just all day. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, one last hack. I know you have to go. Uh, now that this is live, I would push this. I would I would go back to claw code. I would make a few edits if I wanted to. Like there's a few icons or image files for the individual tools I would have it uh put into the page. I would probably launch 10 other pages today. And then um after it's on

[49:50] production, I'd go back into cursor. I'd use the firecrawl mcp. I'd say, "Hey, crawl this complete website. Find me any technical SEO errors that you can fix." So you've worked with agencies. It costs a lot of money to do a technical SEO audit and then have them go in and do all the fixes, right? You can get the full technical SEO audit, pass it to Claude Code, it has the instructions, it has your project, say, "Enter, fix all

[50:15] the technical SEO issues on your site. You have a keyword focused strategy and pages that are going to go and get you traffic." I think this is just amazing, dude. This Thank you for Thank you for coming on. Thank you for spilling the sauce. I I also just love how simple you explain things. I want to plug your Oh,

[50:33] I guess the Vibe Marketer, right? Yeah. Yeah. So the vibearketer.com is our online community where we're doing workshops with leading AI companies getting demos. We're doing tutorials. We're doing lessons in our classroom. And most importantly, we're fostering like an amazing community of AI first marketers that are helping each other to uh develop great strategies, troubleshoot and implement this kind of stuff every single day. So I'll include the link the vibearketer.com in in the show notes. Um, you also have a YouTube channel. I'll include it. It It's criminal how few subscribers you have. Um, and if you sign up to the Vibe Marketer, I think you guys send out a

[51:16] free email, right? With just just proven AI workflows and stuff like that. So, yeah, even if you're not ready to join the community. If you go to the vibearketer.com, you'll see an email list. Sign up. We send out our top five workflows every week and a bunch of tactical advice for how you can get going on this kind of thing. Cool. Start there. Thanks, James. Uh, dude, I I I love having you on, so I I I I need a feel in the comment section that that people love having you on, too. Um, so please please let me know. Please let us

[51:48] know what you want James to cover next. The boring marketer. He's he's spilling sauce for free. He love to see it. I'll see you next time. Thanks, Greg.

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